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An air carrier inspector questioned the technique of an air carrier medium large transport pilot in a very busy traffic pattern.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 210637 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199205 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2300 msl bound upper : 2300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 600 |
| ASRS Report | 210637 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Asked if we had air carrier Z flight in sight. We did so he gave us a visual to 9R. I was about 15 mi northwest at 4000 ft. Started descent to cross deana LOM at 2300 ft. Approach pointed out light aircraft in pattern below us and turned us toward deana. FAA inspector on board thought we might have started down too soon and gotten too low. I did not think so. He said he was not going to pursue the issue, and approach control made no further comment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR INSPECTOR QUESTIONED THE TECHNIQUE OF AN ACR MLG PLT IN A VERY BUSY TFC PATTERN.
Narrative: ASKED IF WE HAD ACR Z FLT IN SIGHT. WE DID SO HE GAVE US A VISUAL TO 9R. I WAS ABOUT 15 MI NW AT 4000 FT. STARTED DSCNT TO CROSS DEANA LOM AT 2300 FT. APCH POINTED OUT LIGHT ACFT IN PATTERN BELOW US AND TURNED US TOWARD DEANA. FAA INSPECTOR ON BOARD THOUGHT WE MIGHT HAVE STARTED DOWN TOO SOON AND GOTTEN TOO LOW. I DID NOT THINK SO. HE SAID HE WAS NOT GOING TO PURSUE THE ISSUE, AND APCH CTL MADE NO FURTHER COMMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.