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Attributes | |
ACN | 211177 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ewr |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 211177 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X on approach to ewr established on the localizer runway 4R approximately 10 mi from the runway, we received a TA on the TCASII indicating an intruder at 11:30 O'clock and 500 ft below us. Our altitude was 2000 ft MSL and just starting to begin our descent on the GS. The forward distance of the intruder was approximately 2 1/2 mi and approaching our 12 O'clock and maintaining his altitude 500 ft below us. The first officer remained at 2000 instead of intercepting the GS. The TCASII then gave us a yellow TA followed immediately by a red RA with a preventive voice response of 'monitor vertical speed.' no evasive action had to be taken except for not descending on the GS. The intruder passed directly below us at 500 ft as indicated on the TCASII. We never got a visual contact on the intruder Y. I notified ewr tower of the traffic and his only reply was 'it's just a helicopter.' I emphasized that the traffic passed within 500 ft. I called the tower chief after I arrived at the terminal and explained the whole situation. He took all the information and said he would file a report and talk with the tower controller on duty. Either the approach controller or the tower controller or both should have warned us of the helicopter traffic in our flight path and not have given us clearance to intercept the GS until well clear of the traffic, or vector the traffic away from our flight path. TCASII definitely saved us from a very near collision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X TCASII TA RA EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN STOPPED DSCNT FROM VFR Y.
Narrative: ACR X ON APCH TO EWR ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC RWY 4R APPROX 10 MI FROM THE RWY, WE RECEIVED A TA ON THE TCASII INDICATING AN INTRUDER AT 11:30 O'CLOCK AND 500 FT BELOW US. OUR ALT WAS 2000 FT MSL AND JUST STARTING TO BEGIN OUR DSCNT ON THE GS. THE FORWARD DISTANCE OF THE INTRUDER WAS APPROX 2 1/2 MI AND APCHING OUR 12 O'CLOCK AND MAINTAINING HIS ALT 500 FT BELOW US. THE FO REMAINED AT 2000 INSTEAD OF INTERCEPTING THE GS. THE TCASII THEN GAVE US A YELLOW TA FOLLOWED IMMEDIATELY BY A RED RA WITH A PREVENTIVE VOICE RESPONSE OF 'MONITOR VERT SPD.' NO EVASIVE ACTION HAD TO BE TAKEN EXCEPT FOR NOT DSNDING ON THE GS. THE INTRUDER PASSED DIRECTLY BELOW US AT 500 FT AS INDICATED ON THE TCASII. WE NEVER GOT A VISUAL CONTACT ON THE INTRUDER Y. I NOTIFIED EWR TWR OF THE TFC AND HIS ONLY REPLY WAS 'IT'S JUST A HELI.' I EMPHASIZED THAT THE TFC PASSED WITHIN 500 FT. I CALLED THE TWR CHIEF AFTER I ARRIVED AT THE TERMINAL AND EXPLAINED THE WHOLE SITUATION. HE TOOK ALL THE INFO AND SAID HE WOULD FILE A RPT AND TALK WITH THE TWR CTLR ON DUTY. EITHER THE APCH CTLR OR THE TWR CTLR OR BOTH SHOULD HAVE WARNED US OF THE HELI TFC IN OUR FLT PATH AND NOT HAVE GIVEN US CLRNC TO INTERCEPT THE GS UNTIL WELL CLR OF THE TFC, OR VECTOR THE TFC AWAY FROM OUR FLT PATH. TCASII DEFINITELY SAVED US FROM A VERY NEAR COLLISION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.