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Air carrier Y landed on occupied runway had less than standard separation from air carrier X holding short of runway beyond hold line. System error.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 212788 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199206 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : tpe |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 26404 flight time type : 870 |
| ASRS Report | 212788 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 1800 |
| ASRS Report | 212794 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Taipei tower cleared air carrier X into position and hold then came back and said hold short of runway. By this time, the aircraft was past the hold short line but about 10 ft short of the runway edge. Taipei tower then cleared air carrier Y to land. I called both tower and air carrier Y and told them we were close to the runway edge. Tower stated for me to hold my position. After air carrier Y landed he told the tower they used bad judgement by holding us in that position so close to the runway. Supplemental information from acn 212794: air carrier Y was on a 4-5 mi final when we alerted the tower of our position. No further instructions were received from the tower. Continued the approach and landed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR Y LANDED ON OCCUPIED RWY HAD LTSS FROM ACR X HOLDING SHORT OF RWY BEYOND HOLD LINE. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: TAIPEI TWR CLRED ACR X INTO POS AND HOLD THEN CAME BACK AND SAID HOLD SHORT OF RWY. BY THIS TIME, THE ACFT WAS PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE BUT ABOUT 10 FT SHORT OF THE RWY EDGE. TAIPEI TWR THEN CLRED ACR Y TO LAND. I CALLED BOTH TWR AND ACR Y AND TOLD THEM WE WERE CLOSE TO THE RWY EDGE. TWR STATED FOR ME TO HOLD MY POS. AFTER ACR Y LANDED HE TOLD THE TWR THEY USED BAD JUDGEMENT BY HOLDING US IN THAT POS SO CLOSE TO THE RWY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 212794: ACR Y WAS ON A 4-5 MI FINAL WHEN WE ALERTED THE TWR OF OUR POS. NO FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE TWR. CONTINUED THE APCH AND LANDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.