<< >> NASA ASRS Report 212790, June 1992

Small transport corp aircraft flies holding pattern as chart depicts. Controller says wrong fix used, wrong direction. Chart error.

Attributes
ACN	212790
Time
Date	199206
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : ign
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6000
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	arrival other enroute airway : n90
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7600 flight time type : 2400
ASRS Report	212790
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

IFR flight plan from lns to hpn. After avp VOR we were cleared direct valre -- valre 1 arrival. 20 mi from valre, hpn airport closed. We were told by ny approach to descend and maintain 6000 ft hold at valre as published, 10 mi legs. We were outbound from valre in the first hold on dpk 338 radial when approach asked what we were holding on. Explained the dpk 338 degree radial and 47 mi. Approach told us it should be the kingston 203 degree radial and 14 DME. We were then given vectors and proceeded to the airport. A telephone call later in the day and an investigation shows the valre 1 STAR to be incorrect. The correct hold is on the ign 203 degree radial 14 mi. This shows the need for good crew coordination in double checking and comparing charts and when in doubt, asking the controller. Published charts are not always correct. Beware.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SMT CORP ACFT FLIES HOLDING PATTERN AS CHART DEPICTS. CTLR SAYS WRONG FIX USED, WRONG DIRECTION. CHART ERROR.

Narrative: IFR FLT PLAN FROM LNS TO HPN. AFTER AVP VOR WE WERE CLRED DIRECT VALRE -- VALRE 1 ARR. 20 MI FROM VALRE, HPN ARPT CLOSED. WE WERE TOLD BY NY APCH TO DSND AND MAINTAIN 6000 FT HOLD AT VALRE AS PUBLISHED, 10 MI LEGS. WE WERE OUTBOUND FROM VALRE IN THE FIRST HOLD ON DPK 338 RADIAL WHEN APCH ASKED WHAT WE WERE HOLDING ON. EXPLAINED THE DPK 338 DEG RADIAL AND 47 MI. APCH TOLD US IT SHOULD BE THE KINGSTON 203 DEG RADIAL AND 14 DME. WE WERE THEN GIVEN VECTORS AND PROCEEDED TO THE ARPT. A TELEPHONE CALL LATER IN THE DAY AND AN INVESTIGATION SHOWS THE VALRE 1 STAR TO BE INCORRECT. THE CORRECT HOLD IS ON THE IGN 203 DEG RADIAL 14 MI. THIS SHOWS THE NEED FOR GOOD CREW COORD IN DOUBLE CHKING AND COMPARING CHARTS AND WHEN IN DOUBT, ASKING THE CTLR. PUBLISHED CHARTS ARE NOT ALWAYS CORRECT. BEWARE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.