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Attributes | |
ACN | 213178 |
Time | |
Date | 199206 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 10300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 213178 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X approaching iad from the south we were unable to accept the usual coatt 3 arrival due to thunderstorms. Circuit breaker's along the arrival route. Instead we deviated to the right and were given alternate routing via pxt, V31 to ott to iad. In the vicinity of ott we were told to descend from FL190 to 4000 ft. When approximately 4 mi west of dca descending through approximately 12000 ft (in IMC conditions) ATC (washington approach) told us in a very excited tone to turn right to a heading of 360 degree and to level at 9000 ft. After the turn was completed we were still descending and we were told to turn to a 250 degree heading. Turn was started when in a very excited tone we were instructed to maintain our present altitude (approximately 10300 ft). We leveled off and at that point we could see air carrier Y approximately 1000 ft below us and at the 10:30 position at 1 1/2 mi headed in a northerly direction. We reported air carrier Y in sight and were subsequently cleared without further incident. The ceiling at that point was approximately 10500 ft and ragged. At all times we complied with ATC instructions. It appeared that ATC had momentarily lost track of either our aircraft or air carrier Y traffic below us to the point where we had less than min sep.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X DSCNT TO OCCUPIED ALT POSSIBLE LTSS FROM ACR Y. POSSIBLE SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X APCHING IAD FROM THE S WE WERE UNABLE TO ACCEPT THE USUAL COATT 3 ARR DUE TO TSTMS. CB'S ALONG THE ARR RTE. INSTEAD WE DEVIATED TO THE R AND WERE GIVEN ALTERNATE ROUTING VIA PXT, V31 TO OTT TO IAD. IN THE VICINITY OF OTT WE WERE TOLD TO DSND FROM FL190 TO 4000 FT. WHEN APPROX 4 MI W OF DCA DSNDING THROUGH APPROX 12000 FT (IN IMC CONDITIONS) ATC (WASHINGTON APCH) TOLD US IN A VERY EXCITED TONE TO TURN R TO A HDG OF 360 DEG AND TO LEVEL AT 9000 FT. AFTER THE TURN WAS COMPLETED WE WERE STILL DSNDING AND WE WERE TOLD TO TURN TO A 250 DEG HDG. TURN WAS STARTED WHEN IN A VERY EXCITED TONE WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO MAINTAIN OUR PRESENT ALT (APPROX 10300 FT). WE LEVELED OFF AND AT THAT POINT WE COULD SEE ACR Y APPROX 1000 FT BELOW US AND AT THE 10:30 POS AT 1 1/2 MI HEADED IN A NORTHERLY DIRECTION. WE RPTED ACR Y IN SIGHT AND WERE SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. THE CEILING AT THAT POINT WAS APPROX 10500 FT AND RAGGED. AT ALL TIMES WE COMPLIED WITH ATC INSTRUCTIONS. IT APPEARED THAT ATC HAD MOMENTARILY LOST TRACK OF EITHER OUR ACFT OR ACR Y TFC BELOW US TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAD LESS THAN MIN SEP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.