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Attributes | |
ACN | 213650 |
Time | |
Date | 199206 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sjc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 170 |
ASRS Report | 213650 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Center descended us to 1000 ft and called traffic 1-2 O'clock 4 mi. We never saw traffic and almost simultaneously received a TA on TCASII followed by RA of about 400 ft climbing right turn. Returned to level flight and told controller we never saw traffic. Once again, he verified traffic was present. After landing I called both center and approach control and they both said our slight deviation presented no problem to them. They again said that traffic was indicated but they were not working him. Electronic cockpits are wonderful when you don't have to make adjustments. But, with continual changes in airspeed, altitude, heading, etc., putting your head back into the cockpit for reprogramming seems extremely stupid as well as unsafe. We need to focus on simply flying the airplane.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG HAS TCASII RA. CLBS A DIRECTED BUT NO SIGHTING OF TFC.
Narrative: CTR DSNDED US TO 1000 FT AND CALLED TFC 1-2 O'CLOCK 4 MI. WE NEVER SAW TFC AND ALMOST SIMULTANEOUSLY RECEIVED A TA ON TCASII FOLLOWED BY RA OF ABOUT 400 FT CLBING R TURN. RETURNED TO LEVEL FLT AND TOLD CTLR WE NEVER SAW TFC. ONCE AGAIN, HE VERIFIED TFC WAS PRESENT. AFTER LNDG I CALLED BOTH CTR AND APCH CTL AND THEY BOTH SAID OUR SLIGHT DEV PRESENTED NO PROBLEM TO THEM. THEY AGAIN SAID THAT TFC WAS INDICATED BUT THEY WERE NOT WORKING HIM. ELECTRONIC COCKPITS ARE WONDERFUL WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. BUT, WITH CONTINUAL CHANGES IN AIRSPD, ALT, HDG, ETC., PUTTING YOUR HEAD BACK INTO THE COCKPIT FOR REPROGRAMMING SEEMS EXTREMELY STUPID AS WELL AS UNSAFE. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SIMPLY FLYING THE AIRPLANE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.