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Attributes | |
ACN | 214182 |
Time | |
Date | 199206 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax artcc : zdc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival : profile descent arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 214182 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared the civet 2 profile descent. On the commercial chart, if you follow all the altitude and DME restrictions printed on the page and work your way towards the airport, you run right into frequency 108.5 for the localizer. Unfortunately, that is for 24R. The civet 2 uses 25L localizer. That frequency is printed down below the airport diagram. Both the first officer and I independently tuned and idented the 108.5. Both our eyes followed the altitude/DME information right down to the wrong frequency. I think the correct frequency should be printed both where it is and on the beginning end of the profile descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR ALLEGES THAT COMMERCIAL CHART DESIGN LEADS THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER TO THE INCORRECT LOC FREQ ON THE CIVET 2 PROFILE DSCNT AT LAX.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED THE CIVET 2 PROFILE DSCNT. ON THE COMMERCIAL CHART, IF YOU FOLLOW ALL THE ALT AND DME RESTRICTIONS PRINTED ON THE PAGE AND WORK YOUR WAY TOWARDS THE ARPT, YOU RUN RIGHT INTO FREQ 108.5 FOR THE LOC. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS FOR 24R. THE CIVET 2 USES 25L LOC. THAT FREQ IS PRINTED DOWN BELOW THE ARPT DIAGRAM. BOTH THE FO AND I INDEPENDENTLY TUNED AND IDENTED THE 108.5. BOTH OUR EYES FOLLOWED THE ALT/DME INFO RIGHT DOWN TO THE WRONG FREQ. I THINK THE CORRECT FREQ SHOULD BE PRINTED BOTH WHERE IT IS AND ON THE BEGINNING END OF THE PROFILE DSCNT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.