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Attributes | |
ACN | 219570 |
Time | |
Date | 199208 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bzn |
State Reference | MT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 10400 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 219570 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On the above described date and time, my aircraft had just loaded a patient on board and started the engines to taxi for takeoff on runway 30. The procedure at bzn is to contact slc center on the ground for your IFR clearance. My copilot did so and we received the clearance with a hold for release. The reason for that was that an air carrier large transport already had a clearance to be released IFR. I looked for him and saw that he was still pulling out from the terminal behind us and we were at this time about 1/2 mi ahead of him to be #1 on the runway. We notified slc that we were #1 for takeoff, to which he replied 'hold for release.' I continued taxiing to the end of the runway and had my copilot tell slc that we would takeoff VFR and accept clearance in the air. The large transport was now directly behind us waiting for takeoff. We would have had to taxi down the runway for about a half mi to realign for takeoff. I elected to takeoff at this time and flew the standard pattern and we called slc over the airport at about 8000 ft and told him we had departed and were VFR. The controller was adamant in telling us that he had told us to hold for release. I told him again that we had departed VFR and that we had to get out of the way of the large transport so we took off. We were a lifeguard flight and should have had some preference, I felt. This is a fairly regular occurrence at bzn due to the fact that the acrs routinely get their clrncs while sitting in the terminal. If runway 30 is in use at the time, all GA planes taxiing to that runway will be ahead of the acrs, IFR or VFR. If runway 12 is in use the acrs will be ahead of most other airplanes due to the layout of the airport. I feel this is an area where some changes could be made to avoid this type of situation in the future. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information. Reporter states he has not contacted anyone at center since incident. Analyst suggested a call to chief of ZLC to explain taxiway runway confign and help their understanding of the conditions. Also to request priority for lifeguard flts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LIFEGUARD FLT TOLD HOLD FOR RELEASE DUE LGT TAXIING FOR TKOF. LIFEGUARD ACFT AHEAD OF AND BLOCKING PATH OF LGT. TKOF VFR AND REQUEST CLRNC IN AIR.
Narrative: ON THE ABOVE DESCRIBED DATE AND TIME, MY ACFT HAD JUST LOADED A PATIENT ON BOARD AND STARTED THE ENGS TO TAXI FOR TKOF ON RWY 30. THE PROC AT BZN IS TO CONTACT SLC CTR ON THE GND FOR YOUR IFR CLRNC. MY COPLT DID SO AND WE RECEIVED THE CLRNC WITH A HOLD FOR RELEASE. THE REASON FOR THAT WAS THAT AN ACR LGT ALREADY HAD A CLRNC TO BE RELEASED IFR. I LOOKED FOR HIM AND SAW THAT HE WAS STILL PULLING OUT FROM THE TERMINAL BEHIND US AND WE WERE AT THIS TIME ABOUT 1/2 MI AHEAD OF HIM TO BE #1 ON THE RWY. WE NOTIFIED SLC THAT WE WERE #1 FOR TKOF, TO WHICH HE REPLIED 'HOLD FOR RELEASE.' I CONTINUED TAXIING TO THE END OF THE RWY AND HAD MY COPLT TELL SLC THAT WE WOULD TKOF VFR AND ACCEPT CLRNC IN THE AIR. THE LGT WAS NOW DIRECTLY BEHIND US WAITING FOR TKOF. WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO TAXI DOWN THE RWY FOR ABOUT A HALF MI TO REALIGN FOR TKOF. I ELECTED TO TKOF AT THIS TIME AND FLEW THE STANDARD PATTERN AND WE CALLED SLC OVER THE ARPT AT ABOUT 8000 FT AND TOLD HIM WE HAD DEPARTED AND WERE VFR. THE CTLR WAS ADAMANT IN TELLING US THAT HE HAD TOLD US TO HOLD FOR RELEASE. I TOLD HIM AGAIN THAT WE HAD DEPARTED VFR AND THAT WE HAD TO GET OUT OF THE WAY OF THE LGT SO WE TOOK OFF. WE WERE A LIFEGUARD FLT AND SHOULD HAVE HAD SOME PREFERENCE, I FELT. THIS IS A FAIRLY REGULAR OCCURRENCE AT BZN DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE ACRS ROUTINELY GET THEIR CLRNCS WHILE SITTING IN THE TERMINAL. IF RWY 30 IS IN USE AT THE TIME, ALL GA PLANES TAXIING TO THAT RWY WILL BE AHEAD OF THE ACRS, IFR OR VFR. IF RWY 12 IS IN USE THE ACRS WILL BE AHEAD OF MOST OTHER AIRPLANES DUE TO THE LAYOUT OF THE ARPT. I FEEL THIS IS AN AREA WHERE SOME CHANGES COULD BE MADE TO AVOID THIS TYPE OF SITUATION IN THE FUTURE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. RPTR STATES HE HAS NOT CONTACTED ANYONE AT CTR SINCE INCIDENT. ANALYST SUGGESTED A CALL TO CHIEF OF ZLC TO EXPLAIN TAXIWAY RWY CONFIGN AND HELP THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONDITIONS. ALSO TO REQUEST PRIORITY FOR LIFEGUARD FLTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.