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Attributes | |
ACN | 222759 |
Time | |
Date | 199209 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bvl |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc tower : tus |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Transport |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 222759 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 9600 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 222666 |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : exit conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier medium large transport en route from den to rno. Around ekr, ZDV cleared us direct to fmg. As we neared the western edge of their airspace at FL310, ZLC issued a left turn to 180 degrees, vectors for traffic. This was nearly 90 degrees off of our present course. Observed TCASII target on ehsi, opposite direction FL310 20 NM or more to our west. The vector took that traffic well to our right. In rolling out on our southerly heading, another TCASII target was observed at 12 O'clock, 10 NM, at FL303. TCASII alerted 'traffic -- traffic' and I commented to the captain that we needed higher. As he was transmitting, RA 'climb -- climb' was issued. I disconnected autoplt and autothrottle and pitched up and added power. We received clearance to climb to FL350 as we were climbing through FL314. RA went to 'monitor vertical speed.' we both observed the traffic passing close in on the right and 1000 ft lower. The red and green position lights were clearly visible. Controller indicated that the conflict was caused by 'spill-out' traffic from a MOA. He said that the aircraft was 8 NM outside his MOA boundary. We were switched to ZOA, who subsequently vectored us around the south side of the MOA. Landed at rno uneventfully 5 mins behind schedule. The TCASII worked great with proper evasive commands. Altitude bus was technically only 400 ft out of assigned altitude and ZLC indicated it was no problem. Recommendation: although ZDV thought they were doing us a favor by clearing us direct mustang, they put us right in an MOA. More coordination between ctrs is necessary before clearing aircraft direct. This incident might have been averted had we been on the airways. No moas show on our high altitude charts, only on the low altitude chart. Even then, airspace only goes to FL180. If mtrs are getting up to FL303, the acrs need to be kept clear. Airspace needs re-evaluation and training activity needs better monitoring.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT CREATES NEED FOR ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION.
Narrative: ACR MLG ENRTE FROM DEN TO RNO. AROUND EKR, ZDV CLRED US DIRECT TO FMG. AS WE NEARED THE WESTERN EDGE OF THEIR AIRSPACE AT FL310, ZLC ISSUED A L TURN TO 180 DEGS, VECTORS FOR TFC. THIS WAS NEARLY 90 DEGS OFF OF OUR PRESENT COURSE. OBSERVED TCASII TARGET ON EHSI, OPPOSITE DIRECTION FL310 20 NM OR MORE TO OUR W. THE VECTOR TOOK THAT TFC WELL TO OUR R. IN ROLLING OUT ON OUR SOUTHERLY HDG, ANOTHER TCASII TARGET WAS OBSERVED AT 12 O'CLOCK, 10 NM, AT FL303. TCASII ALERTED 'TFC -- TFC' AND I COMMENTED TO THE CAPT THAT WE NEEDED HIGHER. AS HE WAS XMITTING, RA 'CLB -- CLB' WAS ISSUED. I DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND AUTOTHROTTLE AND PITCHED UP AND ADDED PWR. WE RECEIVED CLRNC TO CLB TO FL350 AS WE WERE CLBING THROUGH FL314. RA WENT TO 'MONITOR VERT SPD.' WE BOTH OBSERVED THE TFC PASSING CLOSE IN ON THE R AND 1000 FT LOWER. THE RED AND GREEN POS LIGHTS WERE CLRLY VISIBLE. CTLR INDICATED THAT THE CONFLICT WAS CAUSED BY 'SPILL-OUT' TFC FROM A MOA. HE SAID THAT THE ACFT WAS 8 NM OUTSIDE HIS MOA BOUNDARY. WE WERE SWITCHED TO ZOA, WHO SUBSEQUENTLY VECTORED US AROUND THE S SIDE OF THE MOA. LANDED AT RNO UNEVENTFULLY 5 MINS BEHIND SCHEDULE. THE TCASII WORKED GREAT WITH PROPER EVASIVE COMMANDS. ALT BUS WAS TECHNICALLY ONLY 400 FT OUT OF ASSIGNED ALT AND ZLC INDICATED IT WAS NO PROBLEM. RECOMMENDATION: ALTHOUGH ZDV THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING US A FAVOR BY CLRING US DIRECT MUSTANG, THEY PUT US RIGHT IN AN MOA. MORE COORD BTWN CTRS IS NECESSARY BEFORE CLRING ACFT DIRECT. THIS INCIDENT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AVERTED HAD WE BEEN ON THE AIRWAYS. NO MOAS SHOW ON OUR HIGH ALT CHARTS, ONLY ON THE LOW ALT CHART. EVEN THEN, AIRSPACE ONLY GOES TO FL180. IF MTRS ARE GETTING UP TO FL303, THE ACRS NEED TO BE KEPT CLR. AIRSPACE NEEDS RE-EVALUATION AND TRAINING ACTIVITY NEEDS BETTER MONITORING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.