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Attributes | |
ACN | 223301 |
Time | |
Date | 199208 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hef |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1200 agl bound upper : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hef tower : dca |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 223301 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | unspecified : 950 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On returning from a maintenance test flight, we called the manassas tower and advised them we were approaching from the west for landing. The tower is non radar and they advised us to report a 2 mi right base for 16L. Upon reaching our reporting point, we attempted to call and advise, but due to the high use of the frequency, we were approximately 1-1 1/2 mi out before contact was made. The tower asked if we had the small aircraft on a 1 mi final. We advised we had the aircraft and slowed to follow. Upon turning final, I advised the PNF to ask if the aircraft in front of us was touch-and-go or full stop. The tower advised that our traffic to follow was now behind us and we had turned in front of it. The traffic we were to follow then replied that we had almost hit them. The tower then responded 'yes, we saw that.' consequently, we were cleared to land and, after landing, I called the tower to apologize for the misunderstanding and confusion. We had never seen the small aircraft, and, upon seeing the aircraft on final, it was not possible to distinguish its type being that it was dusk. We thought we had idented the correct aircraft to follow.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN LTT JET CUT AN SMA OUT OF A TFC PATTERN. IT WAS DUSK.
Narrative: ON RETURNING FROM A MAINT TEST FLT, WE CALLED THE MANASSAS TWR AND ADVISED THEM WE WERE APCHING FROM THE W FOR LNDG. THE TWR IS NON RADAR AND THEY ADVISED US TO RPT A 2 MI R BASE FOR 16L. UPON REACHING OUR RPTING POINT, WE ATTEMPTED TO CALL AND ADVISE, BUT DUE TO THE HIGH USE OF THE FREQ, WE WERE APPROX 1-1 1/2 MI OUT BEFORE CONTACT WAS MADE. THE TWR ASKED IF WE HAD THE SMA ON A 1 MI FINAL. WE ADVISED WE HAD THE ACFT AND SLOWED TO FOLLOW. UPON TURNING FINAL, I ADVISED THE PNF TO ASK IF THE ACFT IN FRONT OF US WAS TOUCH-AND-GO OR FULL STOP. THE TWR ADVISED THAT OUR TFC TO FOLLOW WAS NOW BEHIND US AND WE HAD TURNED IN FRONT OF IT. THE TFC WE WERE TO FOLLOW THEN REPLIED THAT WE HAD ALMOST HIT THEM. THE TWR THEN RESPONDED 'YES, WE SAW THAT.' CONSEQUENTLY, WE WERE CLRED TO LAND AND, AFTER LNDG, I CALLED THE TWR TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING AND CONFUSION. WE HAD NEVER SEEN THE SMA, AND, UPON SEEING THE ACFT ON FINAL, IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH ITS TYPE BEING THAT IT WAS DUSK. WE THOUGHT WE HAD IDENTED THE CORRECT ACFT TO FOLLOW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.