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Attributes | |
ACN | 224045 |
Time | |
Date | 199210 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lou |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 700 agl bound upper : 700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lou |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 920 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 224045 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 235 flight time type : 20 |
ASRS Report | 224046 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on final approach to runway 24 bowman field after reporting 2 mi final, we were asked if we saw a twin small aircraft Y at our 10 O'clock. My student said 'no' and then a couple of seconds later reported him in sight. Tower then told us to 'follow that traffic, number 2.' my student said 'roger' and turned to our left to fall in behind the twin. I had the traffic in sight the whole time and at this time took the aircraft to maneuver around the twin small aircraft Y. We were already on final before turning, so our altitude was below his about 400 ft. I also avoided his flight path by at least 100 ft. We then were directed by tower to enter the upwind which we did. I gave the aircraft back to my student at this time. At about this time the pilot of the twin small aircraft Y told tower there was a retractable small aircraft X that was head-on to him and then paralleling his flight path 'not talking to anybody.' we told the tower we were paralleling the twin and were entering the upwind. Tower's telling us to follow small aircraft Y when we were on final, lower than the other aircraft, I believe caused the problem. If the tower had directed a right 360 or to enter the upwind at that time, it would have worked smoother. Also, if they had allowed us to continue, there probably would not have been a conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 SMA'S HAD AN NMAC IN THE TFC PATTERN.
Narrative: WHILE ON FINAL APCH TO RWY 24 BOWMAN FIELD AFTER RPTING 2 MI FINAL, WE WERE ASKED IF WE SAW A TWIN SMA Y AT OUR 10 O'CLOCK. MY STUDENT SAID 'NO' AND THEN A COUPLE OF SECONDS LATER RPTED HIM IN SIGHT. TWR THEN TOLD US TO 'FOLLOW THAT TFC, NUMBER 2.' MY STUDENT SAID 'ROGER' AND TURNED TO OUR L TO FALL IN BEHIND THE TWIN. I HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT THE WHOLE TIME AND AT THIS TIME TOOK THE ACFT TO MANEUVER AROUND THE TWIN SMA Y. WE WERE ALREADY ON FINAL BEFORE TURNING, SO OUR ALT WAS BELOW HIS ABOUT 400 FT. I ALSO AVOIDED HIS FLT PATH BY AT LEAST 100 FT. WE THEN WERE DIRECTED BY TWR TO ENTER THE UPWIND WHICH WE DID. I GAVE THE ACFT BACK TO MY STUDENT AT THIS TIME. AT ABOUT THIS TIME THE PLT OF THE TWIN SMA Y TOLD TWR THERE WAS A RETRACTABLE SMA X THAT WAS HEAD-ON TO HIM AND THEN PARALLELING HIS FLT PATH 'NOT TALKING TO ANYBODY.' WE TOLD THE TWR WE WERE PARALLELING THE TWIN AND WERE ENTERING THE UPWIND. TWR'S TELLING US TO FOLLOW SMA Y WHEN WE WERE ON FINAL, LOWER THAN THE OTHER ACFT, I BELIEVE CAUSED THE PROBLEM. IF THE TWR HAD DIRECTED A R 360 OR TO ENTER THE UPWIND AT THAT TIME, IT WOULD HAVE WORKED SMOOTHER. ALSO, IF THEY HAD ALLOWED US TO CONTINUE, THERE PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.