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Attributes | |
ACN | 225025 |
Time | |
Date | 199211 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : see airport : crq |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : san |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 650 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 225025 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 23 flight time total : 30 flight time type : 21 |
ASRS Report | 225082 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Student departed crq to practice takeoffs and lndgs at L39. Experienced radio communication difficulties. Due to distraction, wind drift, and haze, became disoriented and missed landmarks for trip to ramona airport. Found himself in the san diego TCA between gillispie airport and miramar naval air station. He found I-15 and followed it north to the practice area, switched fuel tanks and then proceeded back to palomar airport. As his CFI, I had flown the route to L39 (ramona) with him the previous day. We had gone over the san TCA map and idented prominent landmarks. These landmarks were obscured by the haze and missed because of his distraction with radio problems. In the future, I will discuss 'what if' scenarios with students to help them with their navigation. I'll also develop radio navaids to help them better check their positions to avoid the san TCA. Once student recognized the problem and his location, he exhibited good judgement in getting out of the TCA and in maintaining control of the aircraft. This was only his second unsupervised solo flight. Supplemental information from acn 225082. Tower cleared me to taxi into position and hold and when I repeated the instructions I noticed that I could no longer hear the communication through my headset, a new brand X. I became fixated on the radio problem. I turned to a northerly heading knowing that I was sure to find interstate 15 to navigate north. I had allowed myself to fly right into the miramar NAS control zone. I found interstate 15 off my left wing and followed the highway north to a point where I recognized the area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SPI SMA PLT GOT LOST AND WANDERED INTO THE SAN TCA.
Narrative: STUDENT DEPARTED CRQ TO PRACTICE TKOFS AND LNDGS AT L39. EXPERIENCED RADIO COM DIFFICULTIES. DUE TO DISTR, WIND DRIFT, AND HAZE, BECAME DISORIENTED AND MISSED LANDMARKS FOR TRIP TO RAMONA ARPT. FOUND HIMSELF IN THE SAN DIEGO TCA BTWN GILLISPIE ARPT AND MIRAMAR NAVAL AIR STATION. HE FOUND I-15 AND FOLLOWED IT N TO THE PRACTICE AREA, SWITCHED FUEL TANKS AND THEN PROCEEDED BACK TO PALOMAR ARPT. AS HIS CFI, I HAD FLOWN THE RTE TO L39 (RAMONA) WITH HIM THE PREVIOUS DAY. WE HAD GONE OVER THE SAN TCA MAP AND IDENTED PROMINENT LANDMARKS. THESE LANDMARKS WERE OBSCURED BY THE HAZE AND MISSED BECAUSE OF HIS DISTR WITH RADIO PROBLEMS. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL DISCUSS 'WHAT IF' SCENARIOS WITH STUDENTS TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR NAV. I'LL ALSO DEVELOP RADIO NAVAIDS TO HELP THEM BETTER CHK THEIR POSITIONS TO AVOID THE SAN TCA. ONCE STUDENT RECOGNIZED THE PROBLEM AND HIS LOCATION, HE EXHIBITED GOOD JUDGEMENT IN GETTING OUT OF THE TCA AND IN MAINTAINING CTL OF THE ACFT. THIS WAS ONLY HIS SECOND UNSUPERVISED SOLO FLT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 225082. TWR CLRED ME TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD AND WHEN I REPEATED THE INSTRUCTIONS I NOTICED THAT I COULD NO LONGER HEAR THE COM THROUGH MY HEADSET, A NEW BRAND X. I BECAME FIXATED ON THE RADIO PROBLEM. I TURNED TO A NORTHERLY HDG KNOWING THAT I WAS SURE TO FIND INTERSTATE 15 TO NAVIGATE N. I HAD ALLOWED MYSELF TO FLY RIGHT INTO THE MIRAMAR NAS CTL ZONE. I FOUND INTERSTATE 15 OFF MY L WING AND FOLLOWED THE HWY N TO A POINT WHERE I RECOGNIZED THE AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.