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Attributes | |
ACN | 225752 |
Time | |
Date | 199211 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 600 msl bound upper : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dca tower : lga |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 225752 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was riding jump seat giving a line check into dca. We were flying the river visual approach to runway 18 at dca. On approach after being cleared to land at 1600-1800 ft MSL, a TCASII advisory appeared at 1200 ft descending. We received an RA requiring 2000 ft climb. The traffic was 600 ft below us and not in sight. The captain followed the RA and flew a missed approach, came back and landed normally. I called the tower after landing. The tower replied that a helicopter was being coordinated with another controller and the helicopter did not have us in sight. (The helicopter was following the river also). Before they could advise us of the traffic, we were going missed approach. In summary, TCASII protected us from poor coordination/handling by dca tower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ON 4 MI FINAL HAS TCASII RA. MAKES A MISSED APCH.
Narrative: I WAS RIDING JUMP SEAT GIVING A LINE CHK INTO DCA. WE WERE FLYING THE RIVER VISUAL APCH TO RWY 18 AT DCA. ON APCH AFTER BEING CLRED TO LAND AT 1600-1800 FT MSL, A TCASII ADVISORY APPEARED AT 1200 FT DSNDING. WE RECEIVED AN RA REQUIRING 2000 FT CLB. THE TFC WAS 600 FT BELOW US AND NOT IN SIGHT. THE CAPT FOLLOWED THE RA AND FLEW A MISSED APCH, CAME BACK AND LANDED NORMALLY. I CALLED THE TWR AFTER LNDG. THE TWR REPLIED THAT A HELI WAS BEING COORDINATED WITH ANOTHER CTLR AND THE HELI DID NOT HAVE US IN SIGHT. (THE HELI WAS FOLLOWING THE RIVER ALSO). BEFORE THEY COULD ADVISE US OF THE TFC, WE WERE GOING MISSED APCH. IN SUMMARY, TCASII PROTECTED US FROM POOR COORD/HANDLING BY DCA TWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.