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Attributes | |
ACN | 227617 |
Time | |
Date | 199212 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : jfk tower : pit |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff ground : preflight |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : on vectors enroute : other oceanic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 71 flight time total : 13500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 227617 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Normal takeoff runway 13R jfk, cleared to climb and maintain 5000 ft and heading of 155 degrees. After calling gear up and heading select, I scanned gear lights, engine instrument, traffic watch and command steer bar. Followed command bar to 155 degree heading on HSI. First officer called 'check heading' and flight engineer pointed to magnetic compass and reading 100 degrees. I began right turn using magnetic compass and first officer simultaneously initiated fast slave on both sides (because his card was precessing with wings level), and he notified departure 'we have a heading problem.' they responded 'I can help' and gave right turn for vector which I flew on magnetic compass. First officer then completed second fast slave cycle. All compass system operated normally for remainder of flight. Later check with flight attendant revealed first class passenger was using lap top computer on ground and in-flight. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this aircraft was on its way from jfk to paris and needed a compass. The slaved/free directional gyroscope switches were checked in slaved on the preflight and compass checks were made in the chocks and on taxi out. A tower supervisor notified the airline and there have been several meetings between the reporting captain and his chief pilot on this situation. The general agreement is that 'it's a widebody transport,' meaning this sort of thing happens on this aircraft and then it fixes itself. Everyone seems to agree that electronic devices can affect navigation system, but no one wants to believe that these devices can affect the compass system.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN INTL WDB CREW HAD A COMPASS PROB RIGHT AFTER TKOF.
Narrative: NORMAL TKOF RWY 13R JFK, CLRED TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 5000 FT AND HDG OF 155 DEGS. AFTER CALLING GEAR UP AND HDG SELECT, I SCANNED GEAR LIGHTS, ENG INST, TFC WATCH AND COMMAND STEER BAR. FOLLOWED COMMAND BAR TO 155 DEG HDG ON HSI. FO CALLED 'CHK HDG' AND FE POINTED TO MAGNETIC COMPASS AND READING 100 DEGS. I BEGAN R TURN USING MAGNETIC COMPASS AND FO SIMULTANEOUSLY INITIATED FAST SLAVE ON BOTH SIDES (BECAUSE HIS CARD WAS PRECESSING WITH WINGS LEVEL), AND HE NOTIFIED DEP 'WE HAVE A HDG PROB.' THEY RESPONDED 'I CAN HELP' AND GAVE R TURN FOR VECTOR WHICH I FLEW ON MAGNETIC COMPASS. FO THEN COMPLETED SECOND FAST SLAVE CYCLE. ALL COMPASS SYS OPERATED NORMALLY FOR REMAINDER OF FLT. LATER CHK WITH FLT ATTENDANT REVEALED FIRST CLASS PAX WAS USING LAP TOP COMPUTER ON GND AND INFLT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS ACFT WAS ON ITS WAY FROM JFK TO PARIS AND NEEDED A COMPASS. THE SLAVED/FREE DIRECTIONAL GYROSCOPE SWITCHES WERE CHKED IN SLAVED ON THE PREFLT AND COMPASS CHKS WERE MADE IN THE CHOCKS AND ON TAXI OUT. A TWR SUPVR NOTIFIED THE AIRLINE AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL MEETINGS BTWN THE RPTING CAPT AND HIS CHIEF PLT ON THIS SITUATION. THE GENERAL AGREEMENT IS THAT 'IT'S A WDB,' MEANING THIS SORT OF THING HAPPENS ON THIS ACFT AND THEN IT FIXES ITSELF. EVERYONE SEEMS TO AGREE THAT ELECTRONIC DEVICES CAN AFFECT NAV SYS, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BELIEVE THAT THESE DEVICES CAN AFFECT THE COMPASS SYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.