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Air carrier light transport flight crew accused of departing airport ramp with ice on the tail of aircraft. Reported by aci at ramp.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 228010 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199211 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mke |
| State Reference | WI |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 1600 |
| ASRS Report | 228010 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
On 12/wed/92, I was advised by chief pilot that the FAA had been in contact with him in regard to the operation of my aircraft. The FAA inspector stated that he observed my aircraft departing with ice on the tail surface on 11/mon/92 at mke airport. I personally was not contacted by the FAA until I called mke FSDO on 12/mon/92 and spoke to the FAA inspector. I do not recall ever departing an airport with ice formations that are prohibited by FARS 135.227 or 91.527 or company operations specifications. I do not believe there were any violations broken but was informed that the FAA is investigating the situation. The FAA should have to notify pilots of impending investigations as soon as possible. 7 days have elapsed since the situation occurred and the time of unofficial notification of the investigation. This makes it more difficult for the pilot to defend himself and prove his innocence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LTT FLC ACCUSED OF DEPARTING ARPT RAMP WITH ICE ON THE TAIL OF ACFT. RPTED BY ACI AT RAMP.
Narrative: ON 12/WED/92, I WAS ADVISED BY CHIEF PLT THAT THE FAA HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH HIM IN REGARD TO THE OP OF MY ACFT. THE FAA INSPECTOR STATED THAT HE OBSERVED MY ACFT DEPARTING WITH ICE ON THE TAIL SURFACE ON 11/MON/92 AT MKE ARPT. I PERSONALLY WAS NOT CONTACTED BY THE FAA UNTIL I CALLED MKE FSDO ON 12/MON/92 AND SPOKE TO THE FAA INSPECTOR. I DO NOT RECALL EVER DEPARTING AN ARPT WITH ICE FORMATIONS THAT ARE PROHIBITED BY FARS 135.227 OR 91.527 OR COMPANY OPS SPECS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE WERE ANY VIOLATIONS BROKEN BUT WAS INFORMED THAT THE FAA IS INVESTIGATING THE SITUATION. THE FAA SHOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY PLTS OF IMPENDING INVESTIGATIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 7 DAYS HAVE ELAPSED SINCE THE SITUATION OCCURRED AND THE TIME OF UNOFFICIAL NOTIFICATION OF THE INVESTIGATION. THIS MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE PLT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AND PROVE HIS INNOCENCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.