Potential conflict arises out of radar vectoring and approach controller technique ATC. Approach con...

Attributes
ACN	228201
Time
Date	199212
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ict
State Reference	KS
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ict
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 47 flight time total : 576 flight time type : 28
ASRS Report	228201
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated
Miss Distance	horizontal : 1500 vertical : 500
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Requested intentions. Shoot ILS 1R then out to shoot VOR 14! Clearance delivery 125.7 gave me 3000 ft. Tower said fly 300 degrees and 3000 ft cleared for takeoff. After takeoff, tower handed me off to approach control. A lady said, 'left to 260 and 3500 ft.' I replied, '260, 3500 ft.' then she said, 'left to 160.' I replied, left 160 and complied. Then she said, 'right to 170,', I complied, then she said 'left to 320.' I said 'verify left to 320 for small aircraft X.' next, immediately, she said 'small aircraft X traffic alert, climb to 4000.' I said, 'X to 4000 ft.' I went full power and straight to my vx speed. Then she said, 'do you have the traffic in sight?' I said, 'negative, not in this pitch attitude!' she said, 'traffic no longer a factor, turn right to 360 and contact approach 134.45.' she sounded like it was her first day on the job. Then the man controller said, 'turn right to 160 and 3000 ft, advise when intercepting the localizer.' I replied and complied with their request. Next, approach asked my altitude. I said, '3000 ft.' he said, 'I told you 3500 ft.' I said, 'I understood 3000 ft.' he said, 'no! I told you 3500 ft.' NOAA plates also show 3000 ft and GS intercept at 2700 ft. For ILS 1R. Next, he said, 'I want you to make this a full stop and call approach controller supervisor as soon as possible and contact tower now on 118.2. So I replied back and then complied to his request! I landed and then called supervisor. He first advised me that we were being recorded and that I wasn't replying back to them and that I was not complying with their altitude assignments. I told him that I did push the microphone and reply back to there request. He said he was going to pull the tape and review it for possible violations. He wanted me to call him on dec/X/92 and discuss it with him. 1) the lady ATC contributed directly to the actions which occurred. She vectored me directly towards a traffic conflict. Now, ATC is trying to put me at fault. 2) heading and altitude, to the best of my knowledge, I did reply back, every request, and I complied with the requests.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT ARISES OUT OF RADAR VECTORING AND APCH CTLR TECHNIQUE ATC. APCH CTL SUPVR CLAIMS ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT BY RPTR.

Narrative: REQUESTED INTENTIONS. SHOOT ILS 1R THEN OUT TO SHOOT VOR 14! CLRNC DELIVERY 125.7 GAVE ME 3000 FT. TWR SAID FLY 300 DEGS AND 3000 FT CLRED FOR TKOF. AFTER TKOF, TWR HANDED ME OFF TO APCH CTL. A LADY SAID, 'L TO 260 AND 3500 FT.' I REPLIED, '260, 3500 FT.' THEN SHE SAID, 'L TO 160.' I REPLIED, L 160 AND COMPLIED. THEN SHE SAID, 'R TO 170,', I COMPLIED, THEN SHE SAID 'L TO 320.' I SAID 'VERIFY L TO 320 FOR SMA X.' NEXT, IMMEDIATELY, SHE SAID 'SMA X TFC ALERT, CLB TO 4000.' I SAID, 'X TO 4000 FT.' I WENT FULL PWR AND STRAIGHT TO MY VX SPD. THEN SHE SAID, 'DO YOU HAVE THE TFC IN SIGHT?' I SAID, 'NEGATIVE, NOT IN THIS PITCH ATTITUDE!' SHE SAID, 'TFC NO LONGER A FACTOR, TURN R TO 360 AND CONTACT APCH 134.45.' SHE SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS HER FIRST DAY ON THE JOB. THEN THE MAN CTLR SAID, 'TURN R TO 160 AND 3000 FT, ADVISE WHEN INTERCEPTING THE LOC.' I REPLIED AND COMPLIED WITH THEIR REQUEST. NEXT, APCH ASKED MY ALT. I SAID, '3000 FT.' HE SAID, 'I TOLD YOU 3500 FT.' I SAID, 'I UNDERSTOOD 3000 FT.' HE SAID, 'NO! I TOLD YOU 3500 FT.' NOAA PLATES ALSO SHOW 3000 FT AND GS INTERCEPT AT 2700 FT. FOR ILS 1R. NEXT, HE SAID, 'I WANT YOU TO MAKE THIS A FULL STOP AND CALL APCH CTLR SUPVR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND CONTACT TWR NOW ON 118.2. SO I REPLIED BACK AND THEN COMPLIED TO HIS REQUEST! I LANDED AND THEN CALLED SUPVR. HE FIRST ADVISED ME THAT WE WERE BEING RECORDED AND THAT I WASN'T REPLYING BACK TO THEM AND THAT I WAS NOT COMPLYING WITH THEIR ALT ASSIGNMENTS. I TOLD HIM THAT I DID PUSH THE MIKE AND REPLY BACK TO THERE REQUEST. HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO PULL THE TAPE AND REVIEW IT FOR POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS. HE WANTED ME TO CALL HIM ON DEC/X/92 AND DISCUSS IT WITH HIM. 1) THE LADY ATC CONTRIBUTED DIRECTLY TO THE ACTIONS WHICH OCCURRED. SHE VECTORED ME DIRECTLY TOWARDS A TFC CONFLICT. NOW, ATC IS TRYING TO PUT ME AT FAULT. 2) HDG AND ALT, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, I DID REPLY BACK, EVERY REQUEST, AND I COMPLIED WITH THE REQUESTS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Potential conflict arises out of radar vectoring and approach controller technique ATC. Approach control supervisor claims altitude deviation altitude overshot by reporter.