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Attributes | |
ACN | 232638 |
Time | |
Date | 199301 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tiw |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 0 msl bound upper : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise other ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 105 flight time total : 1680 flight time type : 43 |
ASRS Report | 232638 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I work for an FBO at tacoma narrows airport. On jan/xx/93 I was given an assignment by my manager mr X, to take an instructional flight leaving tacoma, wa, to edmonton, alberta, canada, jan/xy/93 and arriving back to tacoma the evening of the same date. I was to take an small transport and instruct our newest flight instructor, pilot 2 on the performance and flight characteristics of this aircraft. We were instructed to take 2 men to edmonton for a meeting that was to last for a few hours. The FBO was going to share expenses with these men. I intended to do nothing illegal. I would not have accepted this flight if I had thought it was a violation of federal regulations. As we waited for our passenger to get back to the terminal, I went over some of the aircraft system and speeds with pilot 2. Shortly before our passenger were to arrive, I received a call from manager, mr south. He said that mr. Y, an aci from the FAA, was looking for an small transport that was apparently doing illegal charter work. I then called mr. Y and stated that our purpose for the flight was twofold: 1) to give instruction to pilot 2 on the performance and flight characteristics of the small transport, and 2) to take these men to edmonton for a meeting. Mr. Y explained to me that the original intent of the flight was a charter. I do not hold a charter certificate, and I was in violation of far part 135. We had our passenger fly home with a charter company that flies out of edmonton. The FBO paid for their trip home. Pilot 2 and I flew back to tacoma separately. I have since met with mr. Y. He explained that the flight originated as a charter. It does not matter if there are 2 purposes for 1 flight. The original intent is what categorizes the flight as instructional or charter. Again, I did not intend to violate the regulations, and I now understand what categorizes a charter. I will not take any further flts of this nature. I am enrolled in a part 135 ground school along with my manager to be further educated in part 135 operations. I am also to take a flight in the small transport with mr. Y to reevaluate my commercial license.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CHARTER FLT OPERATED BY CFI WHO DID NOT POSSESS AN 'ATCO,' AIR TAXI COMMERCIAL OPERATOR'S CERTIFICATE. FAR 13505 VIOLATED.
Narrative: I WORK FOR AN FBO AT TACOMA NARROWS ARPT. ON JAN/XX/93 I WAS GIVEN AN ASSIGNMENT BY MY MGR MR X, TO TAKE AN INSTRUCTIONAL FLT LEAVING TACOMA, WA, TO EDMONTON, ALBERTA, CANADA, JAN/XY/93 AND ARRIVING BACK TO TACOMA THE EVENING OF THE SAME DATE. I WAS TO TAKE AN SMT AND INSTRUCT OUR NEWEST FLT INSTRUCTOR, PLT 2 ON THE PERFORMANCE AND FLT CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS ACFT. WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO TAKE 2 MEN TO EDMONTON FOR A MEETING THAT WAS TO LAST FOR A FEW HRS. THE FBO WAS GOING TO SHARE EXPENSES WITH THESE MEN. I INTENDED TO DO NOTHING ILLEGAL. I WOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED THIS FLT IF I HAD THOUGHT IT WAS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL REGS. AS WE WAITED FOR OUR PAX TO GET BACK TO THE TERMINAL, I WENT OVER SOME OF THE ACFT SYS AND SPDS WITH PLT 2. SHORTLY BEFORE OUR PAX WERE TO ARRIVE, I RECEIVED A CALL FROM MGR, MR S. HE SAID THAT MR. Y, AN ACI FROM THE FAA, WAS LOOKING FOR AN SMT THAT WAS APPARENTLY DOING ILLEGAL CHARTER WORK. I THEN CALLED MR. Y AND STATED THAT OUR PURPOSE FOR THE FLT WAS TWOFOLD: 1) TO GIVE INSTRUCTION TO PLT 2 ON THE PERFORMANCE AND FLT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SMT, AND 2) TO TAKE THESE MEN TO EDMONTON FOR A MEETING. MR. Y EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE FLT WAS A CHARTER. I DO NOT HOLD A CHARTER CERTIFICATE, AND I WAS IN VIOLATION OF FAR PART 135. WE HAD OUR PAX FLY HOME WITH A CHARTER COMPANY THAT FLIES OUT OF EDMONTON. THE FBO PAID FOR THEIR TRIP HOME. PLT 2 AND I FLEW BACK TO TACOMA SEPARATELY. I HAVE SINCE MET WITH MR. Y. HE EXPLAINED THAT THE FLT ORIGINATED AS A CHARTER. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THERE ARE 2 PURPOSES FOR 1 FLT. THE ORIGINAL INTENT IS WHAT CATEGORIZES THE FLT AS INSTRUCTIONAL OR CHARTER. AGAIN, I DID NOT INTEND TO VIOLATE THE REGS, AND I NOW UNDERSTAND WHAT CATEGORIZES A CHARTER. I WILL NOT TAKE ANY FURTHER FLTS OF THIS NATURE. I AM ENROLLED IN A PART 135 GND SCHOOL ALONG WITH MY MGR TO BE FURTHER EDUCATED IN PART 135 OPS. I AM ALSO TO TAKE A FLT IN THE SMT WITH MR. Y TO REEVALUATE MY COMMERCIAL LICENSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.