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Attributes | |
ACN | 232714 |
Time | |
Date | 199301 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : crq |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2800 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : san |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 400 flight time type : 125 |
ASRS Report | 232714 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Pilot is currently undergoing IFR instruction with an FAA certified IFR instructor. Pilot was scheduled to fly from fullerton to carlsbad on a pleasure trip. He decided to get IFR cross country practice and file an IFR flight plan. No instructor was present, but the pilot planned to fly VFR without the use of any visibility limiting device (hood). IFR clearance was granted and the trip commenced. VFR conditions were present throughout the route. Upon arrival into palomar's air traffic area, an ILS approach was initiated. At the eastern most end of the approach, the pilot saw clouds at an undetermined altitude. He asked for a lower altitude to ensure the avoidance of clouds. After informing ATC that he was a VFR pilot, he was given an altitude of 2800 ft which proved sufficient to stay clear of clouds. Upon landing, pilot was asked to contact san diego approach. He was then informed that an IFR clearance cannot be obtained by a VFR pilot. Instead, pilot should have asked for a practice IFR flight under VFR conditions. Pilot was unaware of this distinction, but will definitely follow the proper procedure in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NON IFR RATED PVT PLT FLIES IFR FLT PLAN TO DEST ARPT FOR A PRACTICE RUN, RUNS INTO PROX OF CLOUDS.
Narrative: PLT IS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING IFR INSTRUCTION WITH AN FAA CERTIFIED IFR INSTRUCTOR. PLT WAS SCHEDULED TO FLY FROM FULLERTON TO CARLSBAD ON A PLEASURE TRIP. HE DECIDED TO GET IFR XCOUNTRY PRACTICE AND FILE AN IFR FLT PLAN. NO INSTRUCTOR WAS PRESENT, BUT THE PLT PLANNED TO FLY VFR WITHOUT THE USE OF ANY VISIBILITY LIMITING DEVICE (HOOD). IFR CLRNC WAS GRANTED AND THE TRIP COMMENCED. VFR CONDITIONS WERE PRESENT THROUGHOUT THE RTE. UPON ARR INTO PALOMAR'S ATA, AN ILS APCH WAS INITIATED. AT THE EASTERN MOST END OF THE APCH, THE PLT SAW CLOUDS AT AN UNDETERMINED ALT. HE ASKED FOR A LOWER ALT TO ENSURE THE AVOIDANCE OF CLOUDS. AFTER INFORMING ATC THAT HE WAS A VFR PLT, HE WAS GIVEN AN ALT OF 2800 FT WHICH PROVED SUFFICIENT TO STAY CLR OF CLOUDS. UPON LNDG, PLT WAS ASKED TO CONTACT SAN DIEGO APCH. HE WAS THEN INFORMED THAT AN IFR CLRNC CANNOT BE OBTAINED BY A VFR PLT. INSTEAD, PLT SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR A PRACTICE IFR FLT UNDER VFR CONDITIONS. PLT WAS UNAWARE OF THIS DISTINCTION, BUT WILL DEFINITELY FOLLOW THE PROPER PROC IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.