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Attributes | |
ACN | 232993 |
Time | |
Date | 199302 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bfl |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bfl tower : srq |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 232993 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
A flight from lax to bfl with the FAA on board. I, as captain, was the PNF. When I copied the ATIS at bfl I learned that 4357 ft of runway 30R was closed which left 6500 ft of usable runway remaining. I took the plane and had the copilot check to see if we had performance data for the new conditions, we did not have it so I had him check the performance data for san luis obispo (sbp) which is much more restrictive (4799 ft at sbp) which would ensure that we were legal to land. After landing the FAA inspector said nothing and I haven't heard anything about the incident since. At the time I thought we were legal but now I'm sure I should have had the performance data for the specific conditions at the specific airport. Contributing factors: dispatch knew of the shorter runway in bfl but didn't tell me. Operations in lax knew but didn't say anything. She was having the rampers (who make $6.00/hour and have no idea of what the consequences are) give us the new performance at bfl along with the manifests which I did not receive. My copilot knew but assumed that I knew. My complacency about bfl is that when you fly to an airport 20 times a month for 2 months (I fly from sbp-lax-bfl-lax- sbp everyday and that's all I do). I missed the shorter runway conditions on the NOTAMS which was my fault. I have to keep familiarity from keeping me from reading the NOTAMS in detail.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF ACR LTT ACFT CONCERNED THAT HE DID NOT COMPUTE NEW REQUIRED RWY LENGTH ACCURATELY INFLT WHEN LEARNING THAT A PORTION OF THE RWY IN USE WAS CLOSED.
Narrative: A FLT FROM LAX TO BFL WITH THE FAA ON BOARD. I, AS CAPT, WAS THE PNF. WHEN I COPIED THE ATIS AT BFL I LEARNED THAT 4357 FT OF RWY 30R WAS CLOSED WHICH LEFT 6500 FT OF USABLE RWY REMAINING. I TOOK THE PLANE AND HAD THE COPLT CHK TO SEE IF WE HAD PERFORMANCE DATA FOR THE NEW CONDITIONS, WE DID NOT HAVE IT SO I HAD HIM CHK THE PERFORMANCE DATA FOR SAN LUIS OBISPO (SBP) WHICH IS MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE (4799 FT AT SBP) WHICH WOULD ENSURE THAT WE WERE LEGAL TO LAND. AFTER LNDG THE FAA INSPECTOR SAID NOTHING AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE INCIDENT SINCE. AT THE TIME I THOUGHT WE WERE LEGAL BUT NOW I'M SURE I SHOULD HAVE HAD THE PERFORMANCE DATA FOR THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS AT THE SPECIFIC ARPT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: DISPATCH KNEW OF THE SHORTER RWY IN BFL BUT DIDN'T TELL ME. OPS IN LAX KNEW BUT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. SHE WAS HAVING THE RAMPERS (WHO MAKE $6.00/HR AND HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE) GIVE US THE NEW PERFORMANCE AT BFL ALONG WITH THE MANIFESTS WHICH I DID NOT RECEIVE. MY COPLT KNEW BUT ASSUMED THAT I KNEW. MY COMPLACENCY ABOUT BFL IS THAT WHEN YOU FLY TO AN ARPT 20 TIMES A MONTH FOR 2 MONTHS (I FLY FROM SBP-LAX-BFL-LAX- SBP EVERYDAY AND THAT'S ALL I DO). I MISSED THE SHORTER RWY CONDITIONS ON THE NOTAMS WHICH WAS MY FAULT. I HAVE TO KEEP FAMILIARITY FROM KEEPING ME FROM READING THE NOTAMS IN DETAIL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.