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Attributes | |
ACN | 233183 |
Time | |
Date | 199302 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mia |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8650 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 2200 flight time type : 240 |
ASRS Report | 233183 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 233179 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 650 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
On vectors to ILS 9R at mia, when passing 8750 ft on descent, the TCASII gave us a traffic warning. We leveled at 8650 ft and TCASII showed traffic to be 700 ft below us. We then asked approach if we were cleared to 8000 ft. Approach replied, no, 9000 ft. We told approach that we both understood the clearance from 10000 ft was to 8000 ft and had acknowledged so. Approach subsequently (5-7 seconds later) cleared us lower (4000 ft I believe) with no comment. End of incident. First officer had acknowledged descent to 8000 from 10000 and set it in altitude window. Captain concurred. Possible contributing factor was an air carrier flight in vicinity.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII WARNS FLC THAT THEY MAY HAVE DSNDED BELOW ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: ON VECTORS TO ILS 9R AT MIA, WHEN PASSING 8750 FT ON DSCNT, THE TCASII GAVE US A TFC WARNING. WE LEVELED AT 8650 FT AND TCASII SHOWED TFC TO BE 700 FT BELOW US. WE THEN ASKED APCH IF WE WERE CLRED TO 8000 FT. APCH REPLIED, NO, 9000 FT. WE TOLD APCH THAT WE BOTH UNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC FROM 10000 FT WAS TO 8000 FT AND HAD ACKNOWLEDGED SO. APCH SUBSEQUENTLY (5-7 SECONDS LATER) CLRED US LOWER (4000 FT I BELIEVE) WITH NO COMMENT. END OF INCIDENT. FO HAD ACKNOWLEDGED DSCNT TO 8000 FROM 10000 AND SET IT IN ALT WINDOW. CAPT CONCURRED. POSSIBLE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR WAS AN ACR FLT IN VICINITY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.