An air carrier medium large transport crew slid off the end of an icy runway.

Attributes
ACN	233692
Time
Date	199302
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : pwm
State Reference	ME
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ont
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 110
ASRS Report	233692
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 210
ASRS Report	234101
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Airport
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Previous landing aircraft had reported braking action as fair to good (large transport twin) upon landing, deployed reversers, pulled up speed brakes, and applied braking. To my surprise braking was nil to poor. Applied full maximum reverse, full pedal braking, aircraft came to a stop off main runway about 20-25 ft. Mains were about 5 ft off pavement. No damage to aircraft or passenger. I feel a 100 ft overrun would have prevented this or some better method of reporting actual braking conditions. Supplemental information from acn 234101: runway 11 at portland, me, the WX was not very good at -X M3 overcast 1-2f 33/33, 28.99. Wind did shift to the northwest at about 6 or 7 KTS. We landed just beyond the numbers, and right on bug speed. He immediately applied maximum braking and reverse thrust. The reverse was difficult to deploy. It took a few seconds too long. The runway had a lot of standing water and ice contamination. The aircraft felt as if it were on block ice. The aircraft was towed to the gate.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR MLG CREW SLID OFF THE END OF AN ICY RWY.

Narrative: PREVIOUS LNDG ACFT HAD RPTED BRAKING ACTION AS FAIR TO GOOD (LGT TWIN) UPON LNDG, DEPLOYED REVERSERS, PULLED UP SPD BRAKES, AND APPLIED BRAKING. TO MY SURPRISE BRAKING WAS NIL TO POOR. APPLIED FULL MAX REVERSE, FULL PEDAL BRAKING, ACFT CAME TO A STOP OFF MAIN RWY ABOUT 20-25 FT. MAINS WERE ABOUT 5 FT OFF PAVEMENT. NO DAMAGE TO ACFT OR PAX. I FEEL A 100 FT OVERRUN WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS OR SOME BETTER METHOD OF RPTING ACTUAL BRAKING CONDITIONS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 234101: RWY 11 AT PORTLAND, ME, THE WX WAS NOT VERY GOOD AT -X M3 OVCST 1-2F 33/33, 28.99. WIND DID SHIFT TO THE NW AT ABOUT 6 OR 7 KTS. WE LANDED JUST BEYOND THE NUMBERS, AND R ON BUG SPD. HE IMMEDIATELY APPLIED MAX BRAKING AND REVERSE THRUST. THE REVERSE WAS DIFFICULT TO DEPLOY. IT TOOK A FEW SECONDS TOO LONG. THE RWY HAD A LOT OF STANDING WATER AND ICE CONTAMINATION. THE ACFT FELT AS IF IT WERE ON BLOCK ICE. THE ACFT WAS TOWED TO THE GATE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.