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Attributes | |
ACN | 233773 |
Time | |
Date | 199302 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : okk |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10900 flight time type : 1900 |
ASRS Report | 233773 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Obtained 2 WX briefings prior to departure from independent sources which included NOTAMS calling for ice on runway, braking action poor at destination. Last WX brief obtained 45 mins prior to departure indicated same braking action as above and surface wind approximately 050 degrees at 10 KTS at reporting points in the area. AWOS upon arrival indicated surface wind as calm at destination. (Suspected to be bad information after the occurrence.) unicom indicated a guy in a transam reported braking action on runway 23 as poor to nil but another crew had left the airport already. No braking action report was given from the other crew and we made no attempt to obtain one (big mistake). I elected to land (2ND big mistake). Landing was very smooth and rollout was normal. Braking at midfield was normal. Braking at departure end (last 1000 ft) was nil. Aircraft came to rest 100 ft past departure end of runway on extended runway centerline. Passenger and flight attendant were unaware of off runway excursion until after the fact. Deceleration and stop was quite smooth (luck!). Only damage was to captain's pride. Notes for captain's personal log: suspect AWOS wind information conflicting with other area reporting stations could have been due to the fact the instruments may have frozen due to freezing rain the night before and below freezing temperatures after. A guy in a transam just might be a real airport management type person and interpretation of poor to nil braking action means 'don't come here.' 'another crew left already this morning' means they did not necessarily takeoff in an airplane. In fact, they came out, looked at the airport and left for the hotel in a car -- very cautiously!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RWY EXCURSION ON LNDG PROC ROLLOUT.
Narrative: OBTAINED 2 WX BRIEFINGS PRIOR TO DEP FROM INDEPENDENT SOURCES WHICH INCLUDED NOTAMS CALLING FOR ICE ON RWY, BRAKING ACTION POOR AT DEST. LAST WX BRIEF OBTAINED 45 MINS PRIOR TO DEP INDICATED SAME BRAKING ACTION AS ABOVE AND SURFACE WIND APPROX 050 DEGS AT 10 KTS AT RPTING POINTS IN THE AREA. AWOS UPON ARR INDICATED SURFACE WIND AS CALM AT DEST. (SUSPECTED TO BE BAD INFO AFTER THE OCCURRENCE.) UNICOM INDICATED A GUY IN A TRANSAM RPTED BRAKING ACTION ON RWY 23 AS POOR TO NIL BUT ANOTHER CREW HAD LEFT THE ARPT ALREADY. NO BRAKING ACTION RPT WAS GIVEN FROM THE OTHER CREW AND WE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO OBTAIN ONE (BIG MISTAKE). I ELECTED TO LAND (2ND BIG MISTAKE). LNDG WAS VERY SMOOTH AND ROLLOUT WAS NORMAL. BRAKING AT MIDFIELD WAS NORMAL. BRAKING AT DEP END (LAST 1000 FT) WAS NIL. ACFT CAME TO REST 100 FT PAST DEP END OF RWY ON EXTENDED RWY CTRLINE. PAX AND FLT ATTENDANT WERE UNAWARE OF OFF RWY EXCURSION UNTIL AFTER THE FACT. DECELERATION AND STOP WAS QUITE SMOOTH (LUCK!). ONLY DAMAGE WAS TO CAPT'S PRIDE. NOTES FOR CAPT'S PERSONAL LOG: SUSPECT AWOS WIND INFO CONFLICTING WITH OTHER AREA RPTING STATIONS COULD HAVE BEEN DUE TO THE FACT THE INSTS MAY HAVE FROZEN DUE TO FREEZING RAIN THE NIGHT BEFORE AND BELOW FREEZING TEMPS AFTER. A GUY IN A TRANSAM JUST MIGHT BE A REAL ARPT MGMNT TYPE PERSON AND INTERP OF POOR TO NIL BRAKING ACTION MEANS 'DON'T COME HERE.' 'ANOTHER CREW LEFT ALREADY THIS MORNING' MEANS THEY DID NOT NECESSARILY TKOF IN AN AIRPLANE. IN FACT, THEY CAME OUT, LOOKED AT THE ARPT AND LEFT FOR THE HOTEL IN A CAR -- VERY CAUTIOUSLY!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.