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Pilot of small aircraft aircraft confused whether to the legal status of taking off from a closed runway at pilot's risk at a controled airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 235395 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199302 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pao |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| ASRS Report | 235395 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : ground |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
| Airport | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Pao tower advised that runway was closed due to flooding and takeoff was at pilot's own risk. In my opinion the standing water was sufficiently to the side of the runway not to present a hazard and should not have been closed. Otherwise, the tower should have closed and allowed takeoff and lndgs as an uncontrolled airport. Advising pilots that runway is closed and allowing continuous takeoffs and lndgs at pilot's discretion is not useful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF SMA ACFT CONFUSED WHETHER TO THE LEGAL STATUS OF TAKING OFF FROM A CLOSED RWY AT PLT'S RISK AT A CTLED ARPT.
Narrative: PAO TWR ADVISED THAT RWY WAS CLOSED DUE TO FLOODING AND TKOF WAS AT PLT'S OWN RISK. IN MY OPINION THE STANDING WATER WAS SUFFICIENTLY TO THE SIDE OF THE RWY NOT TO PRESENT A HAZARD AND SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CLOSED. OTHERWISE, THE TWR SHOULD HAVE CLOSED AND ALLOWED TKOF AND LNDGS AS AN UNCTLED ARPT. ADVISING PLTS THAT RWY IS CLOSED AND ALLOWING CONTINUOUS TKOFS AND LNDGS AT PLT'S DISCRETION IS NOT USEFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.