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Attributes | |
ACN | 237436 |
Time | |
Date | 199303 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mmid airport : cun |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : mmid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude landing other other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 237436 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On climb out from cancun, mexico, we experienced a very short ring on the fire bell. About a min later, we heard it again only this time it was accompanied by a quick flicker of #2 engine fire light. Shortly, it started to ring erratically and the light flickered. The bell would ring in extremely short bursts at erratic intervals and would not silence. We shut #2 engine down using the emergency engine failure fire checklist and returned to cancun to make an uneventful landing. We then had 2 maintenance men check the problem out for 4 hours back in cancun. They also consulted with air carrier maintenance back in headquarters. They could find nothing wrong and all warning system tested good. They concluded that it must be a temporary short in the system, but it was now presently good. I'm not sure what the final corrective action was exactly, but maintenance in headquarters gave their final approval, and we took off again only to have the same thing happen. I informed the captain that we did have 2 fire loops and one could be shorting out and that we could isolate it by using the circuit breakers for a and B system. We did that and the problem stopped and we returned to cancun. At no time did we pull both circuit breakers at the same time so we still had fire protection. We had maintenance confirm the problem on the ground and signed off the corrective action with a deferral in consultation with headquarters maintenance. We then proceeded on to mem with no further problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT EQUIP PROB WITH FALSE ALARM RETURNS LANDS. TWICE.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT FROM CANCUN, MEXICO, WE EXPERIENCED A VERY SHORT RING ON THE FIRE BELL. ABOUT A MIN LATER, WE HEARD IT AGAIN ONLY THIS TIME IT WAS ACCOMPANIED BY A QUICK FLICKER OF #2 ENG FIRE LIGHT. SHORTLY, IT STARTED TO RING ERRATICALLY AND THE LIGHT FLICKERED. THE BELL WOULD RING IN EXTREMELY SHORT BURSTS AT ERRATIC INTERVALS AND WOULD NOT SILENCE. WE SHUT #2 ENG DOWN USING THE EMER ENG FAILURE FIRE CHKLIST AND RETURNED TO CANCUN TO MAKE AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG. WE THEN HAD 2 MAINT MEN CHK THE PROB OUT FOR 4 HRS BACK IN CANCUN. THEY ALSO CONSULTED WITH ACR MAINT BACK IN HEADQUARTERS. THEY COULD FIND NOTHING WRONG AND ALL WARNING SYS TESTED GOOD. THEY CONCLUDED THAT IT MUST BE A TEMPORARY SHORT IN THE SYS, BUT IT WAS NOW PRESENTLY GOOD. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE FINAL CORRECTIVE ACTION WAS EXACTLY, BUT MAINT IN HEADQUARTERS GAVE THEIR FINAL APPROVAL, AND WE TOOK OFF AGAIN ONLY TO HAVE THE SAME THING HAPPEN. I INFORMED THE CAPT THAT WE DID HAVE 2 FIRE LOOPS AND ONE COULD BE SHORTING OUT AND THAT WE COULD ISOLATE IT BY USING THE CIRCUIT BREAKERS FOR A AND B SYS. WE DID THAT AND THE PROB STOPPED AND WE RETURNED TO CANCUN. AT NO TIME DID WE PULL BOTH CIRCUIT BREAKERS AT THE SAME TIME SO WE STILL HAD FIRE PROTECTION. WE HAD MAINT CONFIRM THE PROB ON THE GND AND SIGNED OFF THE CORRECTIVE ACTION WITH A DEFERRAL IN CONSULTATION WITH HEADQUARTERS MAINT. WE THEN PROCEEDED ON TO MEM WITH NO FURTHER PROBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.