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Attributes | |
ACN | 237775 |
Time | |
Date | 199304 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ymx |
State Reference | PQ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : czul artcc : rorg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 237775 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Our dispatch at dfw filed our flight plan for us. Our trip was frankfurt, germany to dfw. Several flight plans were filed because we had to return to the gate for a mechanical (4 hour delay) diversion to ord due to crew legality problem. Entering canadian airspace, ATC cleared us to ord via NA204 to yri FL310, .83 mach. That concurred with our full clearance. Everything okay up to yri (common route), however, the non common portion had changed to ord. We were filed 'yri direct ymx J553 yow J546 to eck....' the new non common portion that changed apr/thu/93 should be 'yri, polty, yms to eck....' therefore, we were about 20 mi to the south of the correct track (routing). We were in radar contact and montreal center called us about 80 mi east of ymx and inquired as to where we were going. We told them to 'ymx' and they said you should be going to 'polty' etc. After that they told us to continue to ymx. They informed us that we weren't the first air carrier flight to be filed incorrectly these last couple of days and that we should let our dispatch be made aware of the problem. We will! However, we neglected to verify the non common route in the commercial manual which had the correct clearance to ord. Factors: 1) confusion of which flight plan, because 4 or 5 were filed at fra. 2) mechanical problem causing our departure to be delayed by about 4 hours. 3) relying on our dispatch to file correct clearance. 4) FMS took our filed clearance, even with the new database in it. 5) flight crew not doublechking the commercial manual. 6) pilot fatigue due to delay on ground.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR WDB FOUND ITSELF OFF OF THE FLT PLAN ROUTING AS ACR DISPATCH HAD NOT PROPERLY UPDATED THE NEW ROUTING.
Narrative: OUR DISPATCH AT DFW FILED OUR FLT PLAN FOR US. OUR TRIP WAS FRANKFURT, GERMANY TO DFW. SEVERAL FLT PLANS WERE FILED BECAUSE WE HAD TO RETURN TO THE GATE FOR A MECHANICAL (4 HR DELAY) DIVERSION TO ORD DUE TO CREW LEGALITY PROB. ENTERING CANADIAN AIRSPACE, ATC CLRED US TO ORD VIA NA204 TO YRI FL310, .83 MACH. THAT CONCURRED WITH OUR FULL CLRNC. EVERYTHING OKAY UP TO YRI (COMMON RTE), HOWEVER, THE NON COMMON PORTION HAD CHANGED TO ORD. WE WERE FILED 'YRI DIRECT YMX J553 YOW J546 TO ECK....' THE NEW NON COMMON PORTION THAT CHANGED APR/THU/93 SHOULD BE 'YRI, POLTY, YMS TO ECK....' THEREFORE, WE WERE ABOUT 20 MI TO THE S OF THE CORRECT TRACK (ROUTING). WE WERE IN RADAR CONTACT AND MONTREAL CTR CALLED US ABOUT 80 MI E OF YMX AND INQUIRED AS TO WHERE WE WERE GOING. WE TOLD THEM TO 'YMX' AND THEY SAID YOU SHOULD BE GOING TO 'POLTY' ETC. AFTER THAT THEY TOLD US TO CONTINUE TO YMX. THEY INFORMED US THAT WE WEREN'T THE FIRST ACR FLT TO BE FILED INCORRECTLY THESE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND THAT WE SHOULD LET OUR DISPATCH BE MADE AWARE OF THE PROB. WE WILL! HOWEVER, WE NEGLECTED TO VERIFY THE NON COMMON RTE IN THE COMMERCIAL MANUAL WHICH HAD THE CORRECT CLRNC TO ORD. FACTORS: 1) CONFUSION OF WHICH FLT PLAN, BECAUSE 4 OR 5 WERE FILED AT FRA. 2) MECHANICAL PROB CAUSING OUR DEP TO BE DELAYED BY ABOUT 4 HRS. 3) RELYING ON OUR DISPATCH TO FILE CORRECT CLRNC. 4) FMS TOOK OUR FILED CLRNC, EVEN WITH THE NEW DATABASE IN IT. 5) FLC NOT DOUBLECHKING THE COMMERCIAL MANUAL. 6) PLT FATIGUE DUE TO DELAY ON GND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.