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Attributes | |
ACN | 240787 |
Time | |
Date | 199305 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ida |
State Reference | ID |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc tower : ida |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : zlc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 |
ASRS Report | 240787 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flying an medium large transport aircraft approaching idaho falls VOR for landing at ida. While under control of ZLC at 14000 ft, we were 3 mi south of ida VOR proceeding north. ZLC cleared us to 'cross ida VOR at 10000 ft and cleared for ILS 20 approach at ida.' during my readback I stated we would be tight on crossing at 10000 ft and understand cleared ILS 20 at ida. Center then clarified to 'cross the VOR 10000 ft or above and cleared for the approach.' 'contact ida tower on 118.5' (this is a non radar environment). We read it back and switched frequencys. By now, we were past the VOR and headed for uconn OM for a procedure turn. I called ida tower and reported uconn outbound. Tower responded by saying 'were you cleared for the ILS? It's inoperative and you should shoot the VOR 20 approach.' we turned left and corrected course for the VOR 20 approach and completed the procedure and landing without a problem. The ILS course is approximately the 023 degree radial from ida VOR while the VOR course is 010 degrees. Therefore, at some point, we were east of the desired position and we went long (about 12.5 DME) on the procedure turn correcting from 1 approach to the other. It may have been a readback error on my part or a wrong clearance by ZLC. In either case, an earlier clearance would have helped since we could have contacted ida tower sooner. This may have prevented us from commencing the incorrect approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG ACR ACFT MISUNDERSTOOD APCH CLRNC GIVEN BY ARTCC AND STARTED THE WRONG APCH. HDG TRACK DEV.
Narrative: FLYING AN MLG ACFT APCHING IDAHO FALLS VOR FOR LNDG AT IDA. WHILE UNDER CTL OF ZLC AT 14000 FT, WE WERE 3 MI S OF IDA VOR PROCEEDING N. ZLC CLRED US TO 'CROSS IDA VOR AT 10000 FT AND CLRED FOR ILS 20 APCH AT IDA.' DURING MY READBACK I STATED WE WOULD BE TIGHT ON XING AT 10000 FT AND UNDERSTAND CLRED ILS 20 AT IDA. CTR THEN CLARIFIED TO 'CROSS THE VOR 10000 FT OR ABOVE AND CLRED FOR THE APCH.' 'CONTACT IDA TWR ON 118.5' (THIS IS A NON RADAR ENVIRONMENT). WE READ IT BACK AND SWITCHED FREQS. BY NOW, WE WERE PAST THE VOR AND HEADED FOR UCONN OM FOR A PROC TURN. I CALLED IDA TWR AND RPTED UCONN OUTBOUND. TWR RESPONDED BY SAYING 'WERE YOU CLRED FOR THE ILS? IT'S INOP AND YOU SHOULD SHOOT THE VOR 20 APCH.' WE TURNED L AND CORRECTED COURSE FOR THE VOR 20 APCH AND COMPLETED THE PROC AND LNDG WITHOUT A PROB. THE ILS COURSE IS APPROX THE 023 DEG RADIAL FROM IDA VOR WHILE THE VOR COURSE IS 010 DEGS. THEREFORE, AT SOME POINT, WE WERE E OF THE DESIRED POS AND WE WENT LONG (ABOUT 12.5 DME) ON THE PROC TURN CORRECTING FROM 1 APCH TO THE OTHER. IT MAY HAVE BEEN A READBACK ERROR ON MY PART OR A WRONG CLRNC BY ZLC. IN EITHER CASE, AN EARLIER CLRNC WOULD HAVE HELPED SINCE WE COULD HAVE CONTACTED IDA TWR SOONER. THIS MAY HAVE PREVENTED US FROM COMMENCING THE INCORRECT APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.