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Attributes | |
ACN | 241697 |
Time | |
Date | 199305 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mvy airport : pvd |
State Reference | MA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pvd |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 241696 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During the last month of flying the same trip into and out of pvd to phl, the controller in clearance delivery has issued us a clearance via the pvd 180 degree radial to an intersection along the mvy 260 degree radial, which is not shown on any pilot charts. It is in effect an improper clearance. How can a pilot fly to something which does not exist? (Perhaps the new intersection missed the chart printing cycle?) ATC did re-issue the clearance as 'proceed via the pvd 180 degree radial to intercept the mvy 260 degree radial as filed.' this demonstrates the need for pilots to clarify and understand every aspect of an ATC clearance. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter described the intersection involved but could not remember its name. Called pvd ATC and got name of intersection -- 'seazy.' called communication chart printer and found that, although seazy does not appear on L25 chart, it does appear on northeast corridor chart. Seazy does appear on the NOAA L25 chart.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR COULD NOT ACCEPT A CLRNC TO 'SEAZY' INTXN BECAUSE IT DID NOT EXIST ON HIS CHARTS.
Narrative: DURING THE LAST MONTH OF FLYING THE SAME TRIP INTO AND OUT OF PVD TO PHL, THE CTLR IN CLRNC DELIVERY HAS ISSUED US A CLRNC VIA THE PVD 180 DEG RADIAL TO AN INTXN ALONG THE MVY 260 DEG RADIAL, WHICH IS NOT SHOWN ON ANY PLT CHARTS. IT IS IN EFFECT AN IMPROPER CLRNC. HOW CAN A PLT FLY TO SOMETHING WHICH DOES NOT EXIST? (PERHAPS THE NEW INTXN MISSED THE CHART PRINTING CYCLE?) ATC DID RE-ISSUE THE CLRNC AS 'PROCEED VIA THE PVD 180 DEG RADIAL TO INTERCEPT THE MVY 260 DEG RADIAL AS FILED.' THIS DEMONSTRATES THE NEED FOR PLTS TO CLARIFY AND UNDERSTAND EVERY ASPECT OF AN ATC CLRNC. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR DESCRIBED THE INTXN INVOLVED BUT COULD NOT REMEMBER ITS NAME. CALLED PVD ATC AND GOT NAME OF INTXN -- 'SEAZY.' CALLED COM CHART PRINTER AND FOUND THAT, ALTHOUGH SEAZY DOES NOT APPEAR ON L25 CHART, IT DOES APPEAR ON NE CORRIDOR CHART. SEAZY DOES APPEAR ON THE NOAA L25 CHART.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.