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Attributes | |
ACN | 243510 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mwa |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 25800 msl bound upper : 26400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc tower : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 185 flight time total : 6743 flight time type : 1565 |
ASRS Report | 243510 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 16874 flight time type : 4553 |
ASRS Report | 243334 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Upon crossing the marion VOR (mwa) and initiating a left turn from a heading of 310 degrees to 275 degrees to join the arrival (QBALL2), air carrier X requested from ATC a clearance for descent out of FL260 or a heading for st louis to avoid thunderstorms. ATC advised that they had been trying to give us a clearance to FL240 3 times. The captain of air carrier X then replied that we never heard or accepted the clearance. ATC then cleared air carrier X to descend and maintain FL240. While in a 10 degree left turn and starting to descend, at approximately FL258, our TCASII indicated a TA and depicted traffic directly on the spot of the aircraft symbol on the TCASII display. Immediately thereafter we received an audio 'climb, climb' RA. We then initiated a climb. The audio then said 'increase climb' which we responded to by climbing into the green arc displayed (2000-2500 FPM). The TCASII display showed a red square at 1 O'clock plus 200 ft and a climb trend. We increased our bank angle to 30-40 degrees while climbing. Upon reaching FL267 the conflict was declared over. We advised ATC that we were following the RA and when it was over we advised ATC and they then cleared air carrier X to FL260. During this maneuver another aircraft also reported they had complied with an RA on our ATC frequency 134.42. Supplemental information from acn 243676: air carrier Y inbound to st louis for qball arrival, first officer flying, communicating with ZKC. Deviated east of arrival for WX over cape grandeau. Was descended from FL350 to FL310, then FL280. Being vectored nwesterly, them more westerly. Air carrier Y given right turn to 360 degrees, descend to FL240, while descending and turning, then directed to level at FL270. Replied to center already below FL270. While changing vertical direction, TCASII RA advisory activated. Lowest altimeter reading about 26400 ft with wings level, quickly returned to FL270 on 350 degree heading. Heard other aircraft advise RA, level at FL260 and near miss of 200 ft. Center also advised of our RA. New traffic control voice assumed responsibility.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X AND ACR Y DSCNT TO SAME ALT BOTH HAD TCASII RA CLB HAD LTSS. EVASIVE ACTION CLB.
Narrative: UPON XING THE MARION VOR (MWA) AND INITIATING A L TURN FROM A HDG OF 310 DEGS TO 275 DEGS TO JOIN THE ARR (QBALL2), ACR X REQUESTED FROM ATC A CLRNC FOR DSCNT OUT OF FL260 OR A HDG FOR ST LOUIS TO AVOID TSTMS. ATC ADVISED THAT THEY HAD BEEN TRYING TO GIVE US A CLRNC TO FL240 3 TIMES. THE CAPT OF ACR X THEN REPLIED THAT WE NEVER HEARD OR ACCEPTED THE CLRNC. ATC THEN CLRED ACR X TO DSND AND MAINTAIN FL240. WHILE IN A 10 DEG L TURN AND STARTING TO DSND, AT APPROX FL258, OUR TCASII INDICATED A TA AND DEPICTED TFC DIRECTLY ON THE SPOT OF THE ACFT SYMBOL ON THE TCASII DISPLAY. IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER WE RECEIVED AN AUDIO 'CLB, CLB' RA. WE THEN INITIATED A CLB. THE AUDIO THEN SAID 'INCREASE CLB' WHICH WE RESPONDED TO BY CLBING INTO THE GREEN ARC DISPLAYED (2000-2500 FPM). THE TCASII DISPLAY SHOWED A RED SQUARE AT 1 O'CLOCK PLUS 200 FT AND A CLB TREND. WE INCREASED OUR BANK ANGLE TO 30-40 DEGS WHILE CLBING. UPON REACHING FL267 THE CONFLICT WAS DECLARED OVER. WE ADVISED ATC THAT WE WERE FOLLOWING THE RA AND WHEN IT WAS OVER WE ADVISED ATC AND THEY THEN CLRED ACR X TO FL260. DURING THIS MANEUVER ANOTHER ACFT ALSO RPTED THEY HAD COMPLIED WITH AN RA ON OUR ATC FREQ 134.42. SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FROM ACN 243676: ACR Y INBOUND TO ST LOUIS FOR QBALL ARR, FO FLYING, COMMUNICATING WITH ZKC. DEVIATED E OF ARR FOR WX OVER CAPE GRANDEAU. WAS DSNDED FROM FL350 TO FL310, THEN FL280. BEING VECTORED NWESTERLY, THEM MORE WESTERLY. ACR Y GIVEN R TURN TO 360 DEGS, DSND TO FL240, WHILE DSNDING AND TURNING, THEN DIRECTED TO LEVEL AT FL270. REPLIED TO CTR ALREADY BELOW FL270. WHILE CHANGING VERT DIRECTION, TCASII RA ADVISORY ACTIVATED. LOWEST ALTIMETER READING ABOUT 26400 FT WITH WINGS LEVEL, QUICKLY RETURNED TO FL270 ON 350 DEG HDG. HEARD OTHER ACFT ADVISE RA, LEVEL AT FL260 AND NEAR MISS OF 200 FT. CTR ALSO ADVISED OF OUR RA. NEW TFC CTL VOICE ASSUMED RESPONSIBILITY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.