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Attributes | |
ACN | 244390 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gcn |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6800 msl bound upper : 8600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla artcc : ztl |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 244390 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On an IFR flight plan gcn-las via crowe intersection we were cleared as filed, i.e., direct crowe, direct las. On departure from runway 3 a left turn direct crowe was initiated, climbing to our assigned altitude. Upon contact with lax ARTCC, she asked if I was familiar with some procedure. Did not understand what procedure she meant. Replied that I was not familiar. Received a vector of 200 degrees until approximately 17000 ft, then cleared on course (approximately 260 degrees). Checking later on sfar 5O-2, I believe this is what lax ARTCC was referring to. This regulation is almost unreadable with minute and lengthy coordinates that have little meaning to pilots operating in the IFR system. After reading the regulation I was uncertain of my position regarding the coordinates depicting various areas. If the FAA expects compliance, it should be presented in a readable form. The way it is presented now, would take a great deal of time to plot on a sectional chart. The IFR departure and missed approach procedure appear to force a pilot to violate sfar 50-2.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN LTT CPR JET ACFT FAILED TO FOLLOW THE STANDARD IFR DEP RESULTING IN PENETRATING SPECIAL AIRSPACE AND DEVIATING FROM THE PUBLISHED TRACK AND XING RESTRICTION.
Narrative: ON AN IFR FLT PLAN GCN-LAS VIA CROWE INTXN WE WERE CLRED AS FILED, I.E., DIRECT CROWE, DIRECT LAS. ON DEP FROM RWY 3 A L TURN DIRECT CROWE WAS INITIATED, CLBING TO OUR ASSIGNED ALT. UPON CONTACT WITH LAX ARTCC, SHE ASKED IF I WAS FAMILIAR WITH SOME PROC. DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT PROC SHE MEANT. REPLIED THAT I WAS NOT FAMILIAR. RECEIVED A VECTOR OF 200 DEGS UNTIL APPROX 17000 FT, THEN CLRED ON COURSE (APPROX 260 DEGS). CHKING LATER ON SFAR 5O-2, I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT LAX ARTCC WAS REFERRING TO. THIS REG IS ALMOST UNREADABLE WITH MINUTE AND LENGTHY COORDINATES THAT HAVE LITTLE MEANING TO PLTS OPERATING IN THE IFR SYS. AFTER READING THE REG I WAS UNCERTAIN OF MY POS REGARDING THE COORDINATES DEPICTING VARIOUS AREAS. IF THE FAA EXPECTS COMPLIANCE, IT SHOULD BE PRESENTED IN A READABLE FORM. THE WAY IT IS PRESENTED NOW, WOULD TAKE A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO PLOT ON A SECTIONAL CHART. THE IFR DEP AND MISSED APCH PROC APPEAR TO FORCE A PLT TO VIOLATE SFAR 50-2.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.