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Attributes | |
ACN | 245537 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11180 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 23000 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 245537 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were at 11000 ft inbound to sfo on vectors. A departing aircraft climbed up directly below us. We got a TA, followed shortly by an RA 'climb, climb.' the copilot advanced power and started a climb (bottom of green arc was 2500 FPM). I immediately advised approach control what we had gotten and what we were doing. He responded by stating to maintain 11000 ft and he had traffic above us at 12000 ft and the traffic below us was to maintain 10000 ft, which he did. (I was on 5 mi range on radar scope and did not show the 12000 ft traffic.) we had climbed to 11180 ft when the copilot corrected and went back to 11000 ft. This could have been prevented by not climbing or descending aircraft immediately on top or below another aircraft when we are in an environment with 1000 ft of separation. This could have developed into a very dangerous situation. (It did not.)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB ON DSCNT FOR APCH HAS TCASII RA. CLBS BUT TOLD TFC 1000 FT ABOVE.
Narrative: WE WERE AT 11000 FT INBOUND TO SFO ON VECTORS. A DEPARTING ACFT CLBED UP DIRECTLY BELOW US. WE GOT A TA, FOLLOWED SHORTLY BY AN RA 'CLB, CLB.' THE COPLT ADVANCED PWR AND STARTED A CLB (BOTTOM OF GREEN ARC WAS 2500 FPM). I IMMEDIATELY ADVISED APCH CTL WHAT WE HAD GOTTEN AND WHAT WE WERE DOING. HE RESPONDED BY STATING TO MAINTAIN 11000 FT AND HE HAD TFC ABOVE US AT 12000 FT AND THE TFC BELOW US WAS TO MAINTAIN 10000 FT, WHICH HE DID. (I WAS ON 5 MI RANGE ON RADAR SCOPE AND DID NOT SHOW THE 12000 FT TFC.) WE HAD CLBED TO 11180 FT WHEN THE COPLT CORRECTED AND WENT BACK TO 11000 FT. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY NOT CLBING OR DSNDING ACFT IMMEDIATELY ON TOP OR BELOW ANOTHER ACFT WHEN WE ARE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WITH 1000 FT OF SEPARATION. THIS COULD HAVE DEVELOPED INTO A VERY DANGEROUS SIT. (IT DID NOT.)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.