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Attributes | |
ACN | 245516 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16500 msl bound upper : 16700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 9500 |
ASRS Report | 245516 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Rapid climb assigned by ATC (excess of 2500 FPM) to avoid crossing traffic. Passing 16000 ft climbing to FL230, crossing traffic demandedl deviation to avoid thunderstorm. He reported descending through 16500 ft as I was climbing through 16700 ft. Controller reassigned him 17000 ft and reassigned me 16000 ft. TCASII gave altitude alert. I gained visual on traffic. Complying with ATC clearance would have caused near miss. I declared an emergency and continued the climb. Controller reassigned me FL230 and flight continued. Due to continued climb there was great vertical and horizontal separation between aircraft. TCASII never gave resolution, only warning. Incident was caused by overworked ATC system who ignored deviation requests due to workload.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MLG ACR ACFT OVERSHOT ASSIGNED CLB ALT AND DECLARED AN EMER TO ATC IN ORDER TO CONTINUE CLB FOR AVOIDING CROSS TFC AT SAME ALT.
Narrative: RAPID CLB ASSIGNED BY ATC (EXCESS OF 2500 FPM) TO AVOID XING TFC. PASSING 16000 FT CLBING TO FL230, XING TFC DEMANDEDL DEV TO AVOID TSTM. HE RPTED DSNDING THROUGH 16500 FT AS I WAS CLBING THROUGH 16700 FT. CTLR REASSIGNED HIM 17000 FT AND REASSIGNED ME 16000 FT. TCASII GAVE ALT ALERT. I GAINED VISUAL ON TFC. COMPLYING WITH ATC CLRNC WOULD HAVE CAUSED NEAR MISS. I DECLARED AN EMER AND CONTINUED THE CLB. CTLR REASSIGNED ME FL230 AND FLT CONTINUED. DUE TO CONTINUED CLB THERE WAS GREAT VERT AND HORIZ SEPARATION BTWN ACFT. TCASII NEVER GAVE RESOLUTION, ONLY WARNING. INCIDENT WAS CAUSED BY OVERWORKED ATC SYS WHO IGNORED DEV REQUESTS DUE TO WORKLOAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.