Air carrier light transport crew overshot a new hold short line on taxiway echo.

Attributes
ACN	245550
Time
Date	199306
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : roa
State Reference	VA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 8000
ASRS Report	245550
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation
Situations
Airport	other physical facility

Narrative:

We were told to taxi to runway 6 via echo. Echo runs diagonally to runway 6 with a 1/2 left and then a short parallel. The hold short lines have been moved from the end to just after making this turn. A little unusual. After making the turn, I inadvertently taxied past these marks with going to the 'end' in mind. I then noticed the 'black out' lines ahead and queried ground. He said I was about 50 ft past the hold short line. It was a VFR day and no conflict could really arise at this position. Ground had no further comment when I asked if there was any problem. (Hence, this form.) I'll not forget it again, but how about the next guy? Maybe better marking (sign, bigger?). Callback conversation with roa controller revealed the following: third party callback to roa control tower revealed that many pilots are overlooking the new hold line and associated sign. The txwys are used on a waiver because they are too close to the runways. Part of echo looks even closer than golf. That is the reason the hold line was moved.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR LTT CREW OVERSHOT A NEW HOLD SHORT LINE ON TXWY ECHO.

Narrative: WE WERE TOLD TO TAXI TO RWY 6 VIA ECHO. ECHO RUNS DIAGONALLY TO RWY 6 WITH A 1/2 L AND THEN A SHORT PARALLEL. THE HOLD SHORT LINES HAVE BEEN MOVED FROM THE END TO JUST AFTER MAKING THIS TURN. A LITTLE UNUSUAL. AFTER MAKING THE TURN, I INADVERTENTLY TAXIED PAST THESE MARKS WITH GOING TO THE 'END' IN MIND. I THEN NOTICED THE 'BLACK OUT' LINES AHEAD AND QUERIED GND. HE SAID I WAS ABOUT 50 FT PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE. IT WAS A VFR DAY AND NO CONFLICT COULD REALLY ARISE AT THIS POS. GND HAD NO FURTHER COMMENT WHEN I ASKED IF THERE WAS ANY PROB. (HENCE, THIS FORM.) I'LL NOT FORGET IT AGAIN, BUT HOW ABOUT THE NEXT GUY? MAYBE BETTER MARKING (SIGN, BIGGER?). CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH ROA CTLR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: THIRD PARTY CALLBACK TO ROA CTL TWR REVEALED THAT MANY PLTS ARE OVERLOOKING THE NEW HOLD LINE AND ASSOCIATED SIGN. THE TXWYS ARE USED ON A WAIVER BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE RWYS. PART OF ECHO LOOKS EVEN CLOSER THAN GOLF. THAT IS THE REASON THE HOLD LINE WAS MOVED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.