Air carrier light transport with new first officer on first line trip overshot altitude.

Attributes
ACN	82942
Time
Date	198802
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ags
State Reference	GA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 10000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ags
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1100
ASRS Report	82942
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	82942
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other other : unspecified atc
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other

Narrative:

Captain and first officer understood we were cleared to 10000'. Departure said we were only cleared to 7000'. There was another aircraft 12-1 O'clock, 4 mi at 8000'. We had a visual contact with him and thought he was VFR. It was first or second day on line with brand new first officer. First officer had been away from flying for 2 yrs. Captain was doing both his and first officer's duties. It was all first officer could do to handle checklist. Captain was flying. In the light transport workload is too much for 1 person. You must have 2 qualified crewmembers. Our company does not train new first officer the procedures of line flying. They leave it up to the captain's who get them fresh out of ground school. Corrective action came from ags departure, cleared us to 10000' best rate of climb. Supplemental information from acn 82954: first officer was flying captain was non flying pilot. Second day on line with new first officer. As the aircraft was approaching 14000' assigned by ATC. Center gave us a new frequency. First officer reached for the radio to dial in new frequency. At same time captain did the same. Aircraft climbed through 14000 to 14500'. Captain discovered altitude bust and told first officer to descended to 14000'. First officer was not doing his job flying the aircraft. New first officer's have a tendency to try to impress their captain by trying to do everything. It is hard to impress upon them that they are not in a single pilot operation. New first officer do not understand 2 pilot flight operations.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR LTT WITH NEW FO ON FIRST LINE TRIP OVERSHOT ALT.

Narrative: CAPT AND F/O UNDERSTOOD WE WERE CLRED TO 10000'. DEP SAID WE WERE ONLY CLRED TO 7000'. THERE WAS ANOTHER ACFT 12-1 O'CLOCK, 4 MI AT 8000'. WE HAD A VISUAL CONTACT WITH HIM AND THOUGHT HE WAS VFR. IT WAS FIRST OR SECOND DAY ON LINE WITH BRAND NEW F/O. F/O HAD BEEN AWAY FROM FLYING FOR 2 YRS. CAPT WAS DOING BOTH HIS AND F/O'S DUTIES. IT WAS ALL F/O COULD DO TO HANDLE CHKLIST. CAPT WAS FLYING. IN THE LTT WORKLOAD IS TOO MUCH FOR 1 PERSON. YOU MUST HAVE 2 QUALIFIED CREWMEMBERS. OUR COMPANY DOES NOT TRAIN NEW F/O THE PROCS OF LINE FLYING. THEY LEAVE IT UP TO THE CAPT'S WHO GET THEM FRESH OUT OF GND SCHOOL. CORRECTIVE ACTION CAME FROM AGS DEP, CLRED US TO 10000' BEST RATE OF CLB. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 82954: F/O WAS FLYING CAPT WAS NON FLYING PLT. SECOND DAY ON LINE WITH NEW F/O. AS THE ACFT WAS APCHING 14000' ASSIGNED BY ATC. CENTER GAVE US A NEW FREQ. F/O REACHED FOR THE RADIO TO DIAL IN NEW FREQ. AT SAME TIME CAPT DID THE SAME. ACFT CLBED THROUGH 14000 TO 14500'. CAPT DISCOVERED ALT BUST AND TOLD F/O TO DESCENDED TO 14000'. F/O WAS NOT DOING HIS JOB FLYING THE ACFT. NEW F/O'S HAVE A TENDENCY TO TRY TO IMPRESS THEIR CAPT BY TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING. IT IS HARD TO IMPRESS UPON THEM THAT THEY ARE NOT IN A SINGLE PLT OPERATION. NEW F/O DO NOT UNDERSTAND 2 PLT FLT OPS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.