37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 246012 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sjc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zme |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid enroute airway : oak |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 246012 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 246008 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared to fly loupe 8 departure from sjc. Interpreted published instructions to 'turn to 120 degrees within 4 DME sjc VOR/DME' to start 'turn no later than 4 DME.' at approximately 5 DME while still in turn was notified by departure of the restr. No conflict occurred. Suggest rewording the 'loupe 8' to read 'complete turn within 4 DME' and provide a DME arc on the chart on the plan view of departure procedure as in the attached procedures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG MISINTERPRETS SID AND TURNS OUTSIDE THE INDICATED TURN LIMIT.
Narrative: CLRED TO FLY LOUPE 8 DEP FROM SJC. INTERPRETED PUBLISHED INSTRUCTIONS TO 'TURN TO 120 DEGS WITHIN 4 DME SJC VOR/DME' TO START 'TURN NO LATER THAN 4 DME.' AT APPROX 5 DME WHILE STILL IN TURN WAS NOTIFIED BY DEP OF THE RESTR. NO CONFLICT OCCURRED. SUGGEST REWORDING THE 'LOUPE 8' TO READ 'COMPLETE TURN WITHIN 4 DME' AND PROVIDE A DME ARC ON THE CHART ON THE PLAN VIEW OF DEP PROC AS IN THE ATTACHED PROCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.