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Attributes | |
ACN | 248116 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sax airport : n90 |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 248116 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Sparta is the last VOR fix prior to ewr on arrs from the nnw. Clearance was sparta direct ewr. Ewr, however, has no NAVAID on the field to navigation to. Normal procedure is to receive an assigned heading for sequencing as you approach sparta VOR. Having no heading assigned, we continued on the inbound heading over sparta VOR. Shortly after passing the VOR, the controller cleared us out of 6000 ft, descend and maintain 5000 ft, turn left (about 90 degrees) 'keep the turn tight.' he then gave a turn to another aircraft. At that moment we got a TCASII TA. We hurried out of 6000 ft as we turned to avoid conflict. Conclusions: 1) a clearance from a NAVAID to a point with no NAVAID (with no RNAV) should not be given. 2) if it needs to be, a specific heading should be assigned, passing the NAVAID.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG GIVEN CLRNC DIRECT WITH NO NAVAID ON FIELD.
Narrative: SPARTA IS THE LAST VOR FIX PRIOR TO EWR ON ARRS FROM THE NNW. CLRNC WAS SPARTA DIRECT EWR. EWR, HOWEVER, HAS NO NAVAID ON THE FIELD TO NAV TO. NORMAL PROC IS TO RECEIVE AN ASSIGNED HDG FOR SEQUENCING AS YOU APCH SPARTA VOR. HAVING NO HDG ASSIGNED, WE CONTINUED ON THE INBOUND HDG OVER SPARTA VOR. SHORTLY AFTER PASSING THE VOR, THE CTLR CLRED US OUT OF 6000 FT, DSND AND MAINTAIN 5000 FT, TURN L (ABOUT 90 DEGS) 'KEEP THE TURN TIGHT.' HE THEN GAVE A TURN TO ANOTHER ACFT. AT THAT MOMENT WE GOT A TCASII TA. WE HURRIED OUT OF 6000 FT AS WE TURNED TO AVOID CONFLICT. CONCLUSIONS: 1) A CLRNC FROM A NAVAID TO A POINT WITH NO NAVAID (WITH NO RNAV) SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN. 2) IF IT NEEDS TO BE, A SPECIFIC HDG SHOULD BE ASSIGNED, PASSING THE NAVAID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.