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Attributes | |
ACN | 248667 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tay airport : tpa |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 248667 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 248675 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The flight departed tpa. While climbing through 13000 ft for 16000 ft (approximately) ZJX asked for our speed. I replied 310 KTS. He then noted the time and gave me a phone number to call for a possible speed deviation. He also asked if we were cleared for the tpa 2 departure, which we were. Both the first officer and I had the tpa 2 SID out and we had briefed it prior to departure. Neither of us noted that there is a 250 KT speed restriction for northerly transitions. After the incident I called ZJX and was told there were 6 speed deviations on the tpa 2 SID that day! The best way to ensure no speed deviation is have to the speed restriction stated in the clearance as all other airports do. In addition, the way the restriction is placed on the departure plate itself could be improved by placing it in a more prominent position.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ACFT DEPARTING TPA WAS UNAWARE OF THE SPD RESTRICTION ON THE SID AND EXCEEDED THE RESTRICTION.
Narrative: THE FLT DEPARTED TPA. WHILE CLBING THROUGH 13000 FT FOR 16000 FT (APPROX) ZJX ASKED FOR OUR SPD. I REPLIED 310 KTS. HE THEN NOTED THE TIME AND GAVE ME A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL FOR A POSSIBLE SPD DEV. HE ALSO ASKED IF WE WERE CLRED FOR THE TPA 2 DEP, WHICH WE WERE. BOTH THE FO AND I HAD THE TPA 2 SID OUT AND WE HAD BRIEFED IT PRIOR TO DEP. NEITHER OF US NOTED THAT THERE IS A 250 KT SPD RESTRICTION FOR NORTHERLY TRANSITIONS. AFTER THE INCIDENT I CALLED ZJX AND WAS TOLD THERE WERE 6 SPD DEVS ON THE TPA 2 SID THAT DAY! THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE NO SPD DEV IS HAVE TO THE SPD RESTRICTION STATED IN THE CLRNC AS ALL OTHER ARPTS DO. IN ADDITION, THE WAY THE RESTRICTION IS PLACED ON THE DEP PLATE ITSELF COULD BE IMPROVED BY PLACING IT IN A MORE PROMINENT POS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.