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Attributes | |
ACN | 249414 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : new airport : msy |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5200 msl bound upper : 5200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msy |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7200 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 249414 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac inflight encounter : vfr in imc non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
As we were descending into new orleans through about 5500 ft, ATC advised us that we had traffic at 11 O'clock, less than a mi. The controller thought that the traffic was at 4000 ft but wasn't sure because the aircraft was operating in the TCA without a clearance. A few seconds later I saw the traffic at about 11 O'clock and it looked like he was at or slightly below our altitude. It looked as if he would pass off to our left. I checked our altitude and as we went through 5200 ft I began a shallow turn to the right. When I looked back up we were close enough to see that the traffic was a single engine small aircraft and he had just started a climbing right turn, which would put him directly in our flight path. I had to make a hard right turn to keep from hitting the small aircraft, which passed about 1/8 of a mi to our left. This situation could be avoided in the future if ATC were required to vector IFR aircraft away from VFR aircraft when the altitude of the latter is unknown.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC IN PROX OF TCA.
Narrative: AS WE WERE DSNDING INTO NEW ORLEANS THROUGH ABOUT 5500 FT, ATC ADVISED US THAT WE HAD TFC AT 11 O'CLOCK, LESS THAN A MI. THE CTLR THOUGHT THAT THE TFC WAS AT 4000 FT BUT WASN'T SURE BECAUSE THE ACFT WAS OPERATING IN THE TCA WITHOUT A CLRNC. A FEW SECONDS LATER I SAW THE TFC AT ABOUT 11 O'CLOCK AND IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS AT OR SLIGHTLY BELOW OUR ALT. IT LOOKED AS IF HE WOULD PASS OFF TO OUR L. I CHKED OUR ALT AND AS WE WENT THROUGH 5200 FT I BEGAN A SHALLOW TURN TO THE R. WHEN I LOOKED BACK UP WE WERE CLOSE ENOUGH TO SEE THAT THE TFC WAS A SINGLE ENG SMA AND HE HAD JUST STARTED A CLBING R TURN, WHICH WOULD PUT HIM DIRECTLY IN OUR FLT PATH. I HAD TO MAKE A HARD R TURN TO KEEP FROM HITTING THE SMA, WHICH PASSED ABOUT 1/8 OF A MI TO OUR L. THIS SIT COULD BE AVOIDED IN THE FUTURE IF ATC WERE REQUIRED TO VECTOR IFR ACFT AWAY FROM VFR ACFT WHEN THE ALT OF THE LATTER IS UNKNOWN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.