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Attributes | |
ACN | 249470 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ccr |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : suu |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 249470 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Level at 7000 approach called traffic, an small aircraft at 7300 ft, 12 O'clock, 5 mi, swbound. I asked if it was level at 7300 and the pilot replied they were descending. About 15 seconds later approach again called traffic 12 O'clock 1 mi at 7100. Before any evasive action could be initiated traffic was spotted passing slightly above and to the right. We were IFR, the small aircraft was receiving flight following. Neither of us was given any information to avoid a potential conflict. Approach gave the traffic calls in a routine manner and did not indicate any urgency. When the small aircraft pilot told the controller he thought separation was inadequate, she advised him to change frequencys and did not acknowledge his comment. During the entire episode the controller did not indicate any concern. Her tone of voice was unchanged, and she never indicated traffic position other than the 5 mi call and the 1 mi call, neither of which we acknowledged having spotted the traffic. As far as I can remember the small aircraft was never given our position, except by hearing approach talking to us. The controller was fairly busy with other advisory traffic but not so much tat the conflict could not have been anticipated or more timely traffic information could have been given.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT BTWN ONE IFR COMMUTER AND ONE SMA WHILE ON RADAR TA SVC AT SUU FACILITY.
Narrative: LEVEL AT 7000 APCH CALLED TFC, AN SMA AT 7300 FT, 12 O'CLOCK, 5 MI, SWBOUND. I ASKED IF IT WAS LEVEL AT 7300 AND THE PLT REPLIED THEY WERE DSNDING. ABOUT 15 SECONDS LATER APCH AGAIN CALLED TFC 12 O'CLOCK 1 MI AT 7100. BEFORE ANY EVASIVE ACTION COULD BE INITIATED TFC WAS SPOTTED PASSING SLIGHTLY ABOVE AND TO THE R. WE WERE IFR, THE SMA WAS RECEIVING FLT FOLLOWING. NEITHER OF US WAS GIVEN ANY INFO TO AVOID A POTENTIAL CONFLICT. APCH GAVE THE TFC CALLS IN A ROUTINE MANNER AND DID NOT INDICATE ANY URGENCY. WHEN THE SMA PLT TOLD THE CTLR HE THOUGHT SEPARATION WAS INADEQUATE, SHE ADVISED HIM TO CHANGE FREQS AND DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE HIS COMMENT. DURING THE ENTIRE EPISODE THE CTLR DID NOT INDICATE ANY CONCERN. HER TONE OF VOICE WAS UNCHANGED, AND SHE NEVER INDICATED TFC POS OTHER THAN THE 5 MI CALL AND THE 1 MI CALL, NEITHER OF WHICH WE ACKNOWLEDGED HAVING SPOTTED THE TFC. AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER THE SMA WAS NEVER GIVEN OUR POS, EXCEPT BY HEARING APCH TALKING TO US. THE CTLR WAS FAIRLY BUSY WITH OTHER ADVISORY TFC BUT NOT SO MUCH TAT THE CONFLICT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATED OR MORE TIMELY TFC INFO COULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.