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Attributes | |
ACN | 249943 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 6300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl tracon : grr |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 19800 flight time type : 95 |
ASRS Report | 249943 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were in phl approach control airspace in descent from 6000 ft. We had visual contact with VFR traffic which was also descending. The TCASII recognized the traffic, then issued a TA, then an RA. We followed TCASII in a 'climb' and stopped climb at 6300 ft. After advising ATC of RA, they questioned 'why.' we responded that we followed RA because of traffic. Apparently, traffic changed rate of descent. Visually, it had appeared that there would be no conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR HAS TFC IN SIGHT BUT FOLLOWS TCASII RA TO CLB.
Narrative: WE WERE IN PHL APCH CTL AIRSPACE IN DSCNT FROM 6000 FT. WE HAD VISUAL CONTACT WITH VFR TFC WHICH WAS ALSO DSNDING. THE TCASII RECOGNIZED THE TFC, THEN ISSUED A TA, THEN AN RA. WE FOLLOWED TCASII IN A 'CLB' AND STOPPED CLB AT 6300 FT. AFTER ADVISING ATC OF RA, THEY QUESTIONED 'WHY.' WE RESPONDED THAT WE FOLLOWED RA BECAUSE OF TFC. APPARENTLY, TFC CHANGED RATE OF DSCNT. VISUALLY, IT HAD APPEARED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.