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Attributes | |
ACN | 252271 |
Time | |
Date | 199309 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca tower : dca tracon : oak |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 252271 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 252018 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During arrival at dca we found so much congestion on the radio of both approach and tower that we were unable to confirm clearance for the approach and landing. In the effort of safety we continued the approach and landing. Radio calls to other aircraft confirmed our clearance, however, we do not recall hearing 'cleared' in either clearance. Radio traffic did not allow us time to confirm. Supplemental information from acn 252018: ATC was unusually busy at dca, when on the VOR/DME approach we were told to keep up speed to FAF and contact tower. I asked copilot to verify that we were cleared for the approach, but could not get on the frequency. During landing I asked copilot to verify that we were cleared to land, and again, could not get on the frequency. In both cases it was clear that we were expected to.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT MADE APCH AND LNDG WITHOUT CLRNC. PLTDEV.
Narrative: DURING ARR AT DCA WE FOUND SO MUCH CONGESTION ON THE RADIO OF BOTH APCH AND TWR THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO CONFIRM CLRNC FOR THE APCH AND LNDG. IN THE EFFORT OF SAFETY WE CONTINUED THE APCH AND LNDG. RADIO CALLS TO OTHER ACFT CONFIRMED OUR CLRNC, HOWEVER, WE DO NOT RECALL HEARING 'CLRED' IN EITHER CLRNC. RADIO TFC DID NOT ALLOW US TIME TO CONFIRM. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 252018: ATC WAS UNUSUALLY BUSY AT DCA, WHEN ON THE VOR/DME APCH WE WERE TOLD TO KEEP UP SPD TO FAF AND CONTACT TWR. I ASKED COPLT TO VERIFY THAT WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH, BUT COULD NOT GET ON THE FREQ. DURING LNDG I ASKED COPLT TO VERIFY THAT WE WERE CLRED TO LAND, AND AGAIN, COULD NOT GET ON THE FREQ. IN BOTH CASES IT WAS CLR THAT WE WERE EXPECTED TO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.