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Attributes | |
ACN | 254229 |
Time | |
Date | 199310 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iyk |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 233 flight time total : 7104 flight time type : 2760 |
ASRS Report | 254229 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | unspecified : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At approximately 20 mi from iyk, with iyk in sight, flight following was terminated, frequency change requested. A descent was started from 9500 ft accompanied with a descent and approach checklist. At approximately 15 mi, a radio call was made on iyk CTAF 122.8 indicating I was 15 mi southeast with plans to enter left traffic for runway 20 iyk, and a request for any other traffic to advise of their position. No response (landing runway was determined from company reported winds 230/15 gusting 20). At 10 mi, a 10 mi call was made indicating left traffic runway 20, iyk descending through 6000 ft. At 5 mi, a 5 mi call was made indicating left traffic runway 20 iyk. Upon entering downwind a call was made entering left downwind runway 20 iyk. A call was made at left base and final for runway 20 iyk. No other aircraft radio calls were made on 122.8 from 15 mi out till landing. Landing accomplished without apparent incident. Post landing checks completed after clearing runway 20. At this time it was noticed that an air carrier B light transport was landing runway 20. Upon entering the terminal and making preparations for the return trip to lax, I was approached by a passenger apparently from the air carrier B flight, stating that something needed to be done about what happened and that she won't be flying again till something is done. In an attempt to find out what she was talking about she walked away. At this time the captain from the air carrier B flight approached our counter stating that was close, didn't you see us. I said no and that I had not heard any radio calls and that I had made all the appropriate calls. In an attempt to get more information I urged the captain to explain further, but he departed without comment. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter was unable to add to the information contained in his report. He can only surmise that the 2 aircraft were both on final approach at the same time. He has been unable to contact the pilot of the other aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IT IS ALLEGED THAT 2 LTT'S HAD AN NMAC WHILE ON APCH AT IYK.
Narrative: AT APPROX 20 MI FROM IYK, WITH IYK IN SIGHT, FLT FOLLOWING WAS TERMINATED, FREQ CHANGE REQUESTED. A DSCNT WAS STARTED FROM 9500 FT ACCOMPANIED WITH A DSCNT AND APCH CHKLIST. AT APPROX 15 MI, A RADIO CALL WAS MADE ON IYK CTAF 122.8 INDICATING I WAS 15 MI SE WITH PLANS TO ENTER L TFC FOR RWY 20 IYK, AND A REQUEST FOR ANY OTHER TFC TO ADVISE OF THEIR POS. NO RESPONSE (LNDG RWY WAS DETERMINED FROM COMPANY RPTED WINDS 230/15 GUSTING 20). AT 10 MI, A 10 MI CALL WAS MADE INDICATING L TFC RWY 20, IYK DSNDING THROUGH 6000 FT. AT 5 MI, A 5 MI CALL WAS MADE INDICATING L TFC RWY 20 IYK. UPON ENTERING DOWNWIND A CALL WAS MADE ENTERING L DOWNWIND RWY 20 IYK. A CALL WAS MADE AT L BASE AND FINAL FOR RWY 20 IYK. NO OTHER ACFT RADIO CALLS WERE MADE ON 122.8 FROM 15 MI OUT TILL LNDG. LNDG ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT APPARENT INCIDENT. POST LNDG CHKS COMPLETED AFTER CLRING RWY 20. AT THIS TIME IT WAS NOTICED THAT AN ACR B LTT WAS LNDG RWY 20. UPON ENTERING THE TERMINAL AND MAKING PREPARATIONS FOR THE RETURN TRIP TO LAX, I WAS APCHED BY A PAX APPARENTLY FROM THE ACR B FLT, STATING THAT SOMETHING NEEDED TO BE DONE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND THAT SHE WON'T BE FLYING AGAIN TILL SOMETHING IS DONE. IN AN ATTEMPT TO FIND OUT WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT SHE WALKED AWAY. AT THIS TIME THE CAPT FROM THE ACR B FLT APCHED OUR COUNTER STATING THAT WAS CLOSE, DIDN'T YOU SEE US. I SAID NO AND THAT I HAD NOT HEARD ANY RADIO CALLS AND THAT I HAD MADE ALL THE APPROPRIATE CALLS. IN AN ATTEMPT TO GET MORE INFO I URGED THE CAPT TO EXPLAIN FURTHER, BUT HE DEPARTED WITHOUT COMMENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR WAS UNABLE TO ADD TO THE INFO CONTAINED IN HIS RPT. HE CAN ONLY SURMISE THAT THE 2 ACFT WERE BOTH ON FINAL APCH AT THE SAME TIME. HE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO CONTACT THE PLT OF THE OTHER ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.