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Attributes | |
ACN | 254244 |
Time | |
Date | 199310 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 205 flight time total : 18200 flight time type : 5525 |
ASRS Report | 254244 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 10 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
We were cleared to runway 22 via the outer taxiway and taxiway right, and to cross runway 13. We taxied to the outer southwest of taxiway east, and began to taxi northeast on the outer. As we approached taxiway east, commuter light transport, that had landed on runway 22, turned left off the runway onto taxiway east. We were still on the ground frequency, and the light transport was on the tower frequency. In the absence of any instructions to hold short of taxiway east, we continued northeast on the outer as previously instructed, however the light transport, in order to better clear runway 22, continued towards the outer on taxiway east, as we passed him. We moved a little to the right and avoided the light transport, and the light transport began to stop as we approached, so a critical event was prevented. However, it would have been helpful if the light transport had contacted ground for taxi instructions prior to moving from taxiway east to the outer, as he should have. That way, both aircraft would have been on the same frequency, and would have been able to monitor the instructions to the other aircraft. An alternative would have been for ground to instruct us to hold short of taxiway east and give way to the light transport, until the light transport was on the ground frequency.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TAXIING MLG AND AN LTT JUST CLRING THE RWY HAVE A CLOSE GND CONFLICT.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO RWY 22 VIA THE OUTER TXWY AND TXWY R, AND TO CROSS RWY 13. WE TAXIED TO THE OUTER SW OF TXWY E, AND BEGAN TO TAXI NE ON THE OUTER. AS WE APCHED TXWY E, COMMUTER LTT, THAT HAD LANDED ON RWY 22, TURNED L OFF THE RWY ONTO TXWY E. WE WERE STILL ON THE GND FREQ, AND THE LTT WAS ON THE TWR FREQ. IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY INSTRUCTIONS TO HOLD SHORT OF TXWY E, WE CONTINUED NE ON THE OUTER AS PREVIOUSLY INSTRUCTED, HOWEVER THE LTT, IN ORDER TO BETTER CLR RWY 22, CONTINUED TOWARDS THE OUTER ON TXWY E, AS WE PASSED HIM. WE MOVED A LITTLE TO THE R AND AVOIDED THE LTT, AND THE LTT BEGAN TO STOP AS WE APCHED, SO A CRITICAL EVENT WAS PREVENTED. HOWEVER, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IF THE LTT HAD CONTACTED GND FOR TAXI INSTRUCTIONS PRIOR TO MOVING FROM TXWY E TO THE OUTER, AS HE SHOULD HAVE. THAT WAY, BOTH ACFT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE SAME FREQ, AND WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MONITOR THE INSTRUCTIONS TO THE OTHER ACFT. AN ALTERNATIVE WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR GND TO INSTRUCT US TO HOLD SHORT OF TXWY E AND GIVE WAY TO THE LTT, UNTIL THE LTT WAS ON THE GND FREQ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.