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Attributes | |
ACN | 255613 |
Time | |
Date | 199310 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 252613 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The dfw approach controller took us over the airport from the west to the east side for ILS 31R dfw. After several vectors and dscnts he told us to expedite to 3000 ft. Passing 4200 ft we broke out between layers and rolled out and climbed to avoid collision with an air carrier medium large transport operating out of dfw love field. I feel that the expedited descent and heading put us on a true collision course with air carrier Y. The TCASII warning and climb command helped avoid the collision. The only explanation offered by the controller was that the medium large transport was from love field. Big deal -- we almost hit him. Why is a wide body vectored over the airport for a runway with a 40 KT crosswind at 500 ft AGL with wind shear advisories in effect. The wind was 038 degrees at 45 KTS at 500 ft, the shear developed at 200 ft and we executed a maximum power go around in the flare. During the go around we were immediately a conflict with a widebody transport on takeoff roll on runway 35L dfw. I feel that both incidents were completely avoidable. The surface wind was 358 degrees at 18 gusts 30.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF A WDB ACR ACFT TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID ANOTHER ACFT SIGHTED DURING BREAKING OUT OF CLOUDS DURING APCH AND DURING A SUBSEQUENT 'GAR' DUE TO WIND SHEAR FROM ANOTHER WDB ACFT ON TKOF FROM A PARALLEL RWY.
Narrative: THE DFW APCH CTLR TOOK US OVER THE ARPT FROM THE W TO THE E SIDE FOR ILS 31R DFW. AFTER SEVERAL VECTORS AND DSCNTS HE TOLD US TO EXPEDITE TO 3000 FT. PASSING 4200 FT WE BROKE OUT BTWN LAYERS AND ROLLED OUT AND CLBED TO AVOID COLLISION WITH AN ACR MLG OPERATING OUT OF DFW LOVE FIELD. I FEEL THAT THE EXPEDITED DSCNT AND HDG PUT US ON A TRUE COLLISION COURSE WITH ACR Y. THE TCASII WARNING AND CLB COMMAND HELPED AVOID THE COLLISION. THE ONLY EXPLANATION OFFERED BY THE CTLR WAS THAT THE MLG WAS FROM LOVE FIELD. BIG DEAL -- WE ALMOST HIT HIM. WHY IS A WIDE BODY VECTORED OVER THE ARPT FOR A RWY WITH A 40 KT XWIND AT 500 FT AGL WITH WIND SHEAR ADVISORIES IN EFFECT. THE WIND WAS 038 DEGS AT 45 KTS AT 500 FT, THE SHEAR DEVELOPED AT 200 FT AND WE EXECUTED A MAX PWR GAR IN THE FLARE. DURING THE GAR WE WERE IMMEDIATELY A CONFLICT WITH A WDB ON TKOF ROLL ON RWY 35L DFW. I FEEL THAT BOTH INCIDENTS WERE COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE. THE SURFACE WIND WAS 358 DEGS AT 18 GUSTS 30.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.