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Attributes | |
ACN | 256315 |
Time | |
Date | 199311 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zzz |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 256315 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : provided flight assist other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
LORAN failed during flight. Was en route to a hospital and relying on the LORAN to guide me there. When LORAN failed I had to get radar vectors from ZZZ approach. This was a EMS flight and ZZZ approach was very helpful. They saved the day and provided me with good vectors to the hospital. However, ZZZ approach had to get out road maps and also call the hospital in order to provide me with these vectors. It was a lot of extra work that they should not have had to do. To prevent a recurrence, I will try not to rely so heavily on the LORAN but sometimes a latitude/longitude is the only way to navigation to a hospital. Also, controllers should have all hospitals marked on their radar so vectoring would be much easier. So as not to clutter up the radar, maybe a plastic overlay that can be removed. The overlay would have the hospitals on it and it could be used only when vectoring is requested.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMS FLT NEEDS HELP FROM APCH CTL WHEN HIS LORAN FAILS.
Narrative: LORAN FAILED DURING FLT. WAS ENRTE TO A HOSPITAL AND RELYING ON THE LORAN TO GUIDE ME THERE. WHEN LORAN FAILED I HAD TO GET RADAR VECTORS FROM ZZZ APCH. THIS WAS A EMS FLT AND ZZZ APCH WAS VERY HELPFUL. THEY SAVED THE DAY AND PROVIDED ME WITH GOOD VECTORS TO THE HOSPITAL. HOWEVER, ZZZ APCH HAD TO GET OUT ROAD MAPS AND ALSO CALL THE HOSPITAL IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ME WITH THESE VECTORS. IT WAS A LOT OF EXTRA WORK THAT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO DO. TO PREVENT A RECURRENCE, I WILL TRY NOT TO RELY SO HEAVILY ON THE LORAN BUT SOMETIMES A LATITUDE/LONGITUDE IS THE ONLY WAY TO NAV TO A HOSPITAL. ALSO, CTLRS SHOULD HAVE ALL HOSPITALS MARKED ON THEIR RADAR SO VECTORING WOULD BE MUCH EASIER. SO AS NOT TO CLUTTER UP THE RADAR, MAYBE A PLASTIC OVERLAY THAT CAN BE REMOVED. THE OVERLAY WOULD HAVE THE HOSPITALS ON IT AND IT COULD BE USED ONLY WHEN VECTORING IS REQUESTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.