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Attributes | |
ACN | 259688 |
Time | |
Date | 199312 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hfd |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lga |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : bdl |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 6 |
ASRS Report | 259688 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier mdt en route ewr on route V229, I issued descent from 8000 ft to 6000 ft and at same time issued traffic 10 O'clock, 8 mi nwbound, altitude unknown. At 6700 ft in descent, I reissued traffic 10 O'clock, 3 mi, nwbound, altitude unknown. Out of 6400 ft the crew notified me they were turning to heading 300 degrees to avoid traffic. I asked if he had traffic in sight and the altitude. He informed me they didn't see the traffic, they were turning based on the TCASII information. I thought this type of maneuver was prohibited with the TCASII program. This is the second time aircraft made lateral move based on TCASII information. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: the intruder traffic was a 1200 squawk with no mode C. The reporter was assured that he is correct, aircraft are not supposed to maneuver other than climb or descend in response to a TCASII command.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A TRACON CTLR QUESTIONS THE PROPRIETY OF AN ACR MDT TURNING IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII ALERT.
Narrative: ACR MDT ENRTE EWR ON RTE V229, I ISSUED DSCNT FROM 8000 FT TO 6000 FT AND AT SAME TIME ISSUED TFC 10 O'CLOCK, 8 MI NWBOUND, ALT UNKNOWN. AT 6700 FT IN DSCNT, I REISSUED TFC 10 O'CLOCK, 3 MI, NWBOUND, ALT UNKNOWN. OUT OF 6400 FT THE CREW NOTIFIED ME THEY WERE TURNING TO HDG 300 DEGS TO AVOID TFC. I ASKED IF HE HAD TFC IN SIGHT AND THE ALT. HE INFORMED ME THEY DIDN'T SEE THE TFC, THEY WERE TURNING BASED ON THE TCASII INFO. I THOUGHT THIS TYPE OF MANEUVER WAS PROHIBITED WITH THE TCASII PROGRAM. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME ACFT MADE LATERAL MOVE BASED ON TCASII INFO. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: THE INTRUDER TFC WAS A 1200 SQUAWK WITH NO MODE C. THE RPTR WAS ASSURED THAT HE IS CORRECT, ACFT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO MANEUVER OTHER THAN CLB OR DSND IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII COMMAND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.