Flight crew of an light transport air carrier aircraft taxied onto a non controled airport runway th...

Attributes
ACN	260829
Time
Date	199401
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : hys
State Reference	KS
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : clt
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	other : unknown
Flight Phase	climbout : initial climbout : takeoff
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 15000
ASRS Report	260829
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 550
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

After broadcasting our intentions, we taxied on to runway to back-taxi to other end (34). There was another aircraft that had taken off that was airborne about 2/3 the way down the runway 500-600 ft above us. There was no evasive action required at all!! I called on frequency 6-7 times before the aircraft responded. He said that he transmitted his takeoff. We did not hear this and we had radios on through start of the engine in the blocks, flag out, and taxi. The other aircraft also said he did not hear us announce our intentions to back taxi. I don't know if there is a dead spot when transmitting from one end to the other. I know that we made a call to alert the other aircraft in the area. We also both checked each way visually and verbally called it clear both ways. The runway has a small over hill slope plus trees and a small city at the south end. Plus my sun visor was hanging down, which may have blocked seeing the aircraft also the sky was blue and the aircraft that took off had a dark underside (maybe oil exhaust) with light colored wings. I did not notice a landing light on. As I stated I did call the other aircraft and he and I both agreed no evasive action was needed with his nose high, I don't think we saw us. My copilot and I have no solution, but we will make more than one call from now on.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF AN LTT ACR ACFT TAXIED ONTO A NON CTLED ARPT RWY THAT WAS IN USE RESULTING IN THE OTHER ACFT TAKING OFF OVER THE RPTR'S ACFT.

Narrative: AFTER BROADCASTING OUR INTENTIONS, WE TAXIED ON TO RWY TO BACK-TAXI TO OTHER END (34). THERE WAS ANOTHER ACFT THAT HAD TAKEN OFF THAT WAS AIRBORNE ABOUT 2/3 THE WAY DOWN THE RWY 500-600 FT ABOVE US. THERE WAS NO EVASIVE ACTION REQUIRED AT ALL!! I CALLED ON FREQ 6-7 TIMES BEFORE THE ACFT RESPONDED. HE SAID THAT HE XMITTED HIS TKOF. WE DID NOT HEAR THIS AND WE HAD RADIOS ON THROUGH START OF THE ENG IN THE BLOCKS, FLAG OUT, AND TAXI. THE OTHER ACFT ALSO SAID HE DID NOT HEAR US ANNOUNCE OUR INTENTIONS TO BACK TAXI. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A DEAD SPOT WHEN XMITTING FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER. I KNOW THAT WE MADE A CALL TO ALERT THE OTHER ACFT IN THE AREA. WE ALSO BOTH CHKED EACH WAY VISUALLY AND VERBALLY CALLED IT CLR BOTH WAYS. THE RWY HAS A SMALL OVER HILL SLOPE PLUS TREES AND A SMALL CITY AT THE S END. PLUS MY SUN VISOR WAS HANGING DOWN, WHICH MAY HAVE BLOCKED SEEING THE ACFT ALSO THE SKY WAS BLUE AND THE ACFT THAT TOOK OFF HAD A DARK UNDERSIDE (MAYBE OIL EXHAUST) WITH LIGHT COLORED WINGS. I DID NOT NOTICE A LNDG LIGHT ON. AS I STATED I DID CALL THE OTHER ACFT AND HE AND I BOTH AGREED NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS NEEDED WITH HIS NOSE HIGH, I DON'T THINK WE SAW US. MY COPLT AND I HAVE NO SOLUTION, BUT WE WILL MAKE MORE THAN ONE CALL FROM NOW ON.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Flight crew of an light transport air carrier aircraft taxied onto a non controled airport runway that was in use resulting in the other aircraft taking off over the reporter's aircraft.