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Attributes | |
ACN | 262153 |
Time | |
Date | 199401 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : air airport : ord |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other ground : preflight landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 262153 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 262155 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During push back in chicago, the mechanic said the lower rotating beacon was inoperative. My so called our controlling maintenance facility they deferred the light for daylight flight only. We received a deferral # and name for the aircraft log. As we were # 1 for takeoff in ord. We departed for iad. En route, dispatch called me and told me to return to ord as I would land after official sunset in dulles. I returned to ord and landed. It was quite dark after flying back into over 100 KT winds. Supplemental information from acn 262155: we would be landing at iad just at sunset, while returning to ord well after dusk. If we were illegal at iad we were definitely illegal for ord. The dispatcher was new, had not coordinated with supervisor nor maintenance. It appears our turnback was unnecessary. Supplemental information from acn 262074: aircraft had been on an extended WX related ground hold. I advised the crew of MEL limitations which allow deferral for daylight operations only. It is the captain's decision whether to return to blocks for maintenance or to continue the flight. Dispatch should have advised the crew and continued the flight to iad.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B747 RETURNED AND LANDED WITH THE LOWER ROTATING BEACON OUT.
Narrative: DURING PUSH BACK IN CHICAGO, THE MECH SAID THE LOWER ROTATING BEACON WAS INOP. MY SO CALLED OUR CONTROLLING MAINT FACILITY THEY DEFERRED THE LIGHT FOR DAYLIGHT FLT ONLY. WE RECEIVED A DEFERRAL # AND NAME FOR THE ACFT LOG. AS WE WERE # 1 FOR TKOF IN ORD. WE DEPARTED FOR IAD. ENRTE, DISPATCH CALLED ME AND TOLD ME TO RETURN TO ORD AS I WOULD LAND AFTER OFFICIAL SUNSET IN DULLES. I RETURNED TO ORD AND LANDED. IT WAS QUITE DARK AFTER FLYING BACK INTO OVER 100 KT WINDS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 262155: WE WOULD BE LANDING AT IAD JUST AT SUNSET, WHILE RETURNING TO ORD WELL AFTER DUSK. IF WE WERE ILLEGAL AT IAD WE WERE DEFINITELY ILLEGAL FOR ORD. THE DISPATCHER WAS NEW, HAD NOT COORDINATED WITH SUPVR NOR MAINT. IT APPEARS OUR TURNBACK WAS UNNECESSARY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 262074: ACFT HAD BEEN ON AN EXTENDED WX RELATED GND HOLD. I ADVISED THE CREW OF MEL LIMITATIONS WHICH ALLOW DEFERRAL FOR DAYLIGHT OPS ONLY. IT IS THE CAPT'S DECISION WHETHER TO RETURN TO BLOCKS FOR MAINT OR TO CONTINUE THE FLT. DISPATCH SHOULD HAVE ADVISED THE CREW AND CONTINUED THE FLT TO IAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.