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Attributes | |
ACN | 264407 |
Time | |
Date | 199402 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fll |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : sbbs |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Cessna 402/402C/B379 Businessliner/Utiliner |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18600 flight time type : 15600 |
ASRS Report | 264407 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
After deplaning my passenger from a commuter flight from sarasota to fll, I was about to reposition my aircraft from the commuter ramp to the hangar where I got trapped in a pushback of an air carrier B-767. Even though before I had started up I had advised the ground crew wingman to hold one moment and I will get out of their way, but he chose to disregard my request. As a result, in this incident, the wings of B-767 jet being pushed back completely went over my cessna 402 aircraft and ground crew of the jet being extremely close to my aircraft's running propeller. At fll commuter ramp is located at the end of concourse in terminal. In order to reach there, commuter aircraft taxi pass by air carrier aircraft parked in concourses. Air carrier parking has a red containment line, which cannot be crossed by commuter aircraft at any time. However, pushback calls are not mandatory at fll, often commuter aircraft find themselves trapped in the middle of air carrier's pushback, even though they have 'taxi to' clearance from the ground control. (Portions of concourse is not visible from the control tower.) they are forced to take evasive action around the air carrier aircraft and their ground equipment and ground crew. This is an ongoing problem due to poor construction design from 1985 construction of terminal. I am well familiar with this problem, because I have been a commuter captain at fll in the past 13 yrs. This issue has been addressed to the FAA (FSDO-17) but they do not have a solution to this problem yet. Instead the situation became worse in the past 2 yrs. Airport has taken a few hundred ft from the original commuter ramp and assigned it to some construction company to park their trailers despite the increase of commuter aircraft traffic. My recommendations to solve this problem at least temporarily are: 1) remove the construction trailers from the commuter ramp area to an almost vacant area so called trailer city (reference to fll sida training tape). 2) assign acrs with smaller aircraft such as dash 7, dash 8, dc-9, etc, to gates. 3) push back calls to fll ground control for above gates should be mandatory. 4) ground crew of air carrier aircraft under tow, should communicate with the pilot of commuter aircraft in their vicinity through hand signal marshalling, etc, and pushback in a manner that they do not block the taxiway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PARKED SMT HAS 767 WING PASS OVER HEAD ON PUSHBACK.
Narrative: AFTER DEPLANING MY PAX FROM A COMMUTER FLT FROM SARASOTA TO FLL, I WAS ABOUT TO REPOSITION MY ACFT FROM THE COMMUTER RAMP TO THE HANGAR WHERE I GOT TRAPPED IN A PUSHBACK OF AN ACR B-767. EVEN THOUGH BEFORE I HAD STARTED UP I HAD ADVISED THE GND CREW WINGMAN TO HOLD ONE MOMENT AND I WILL GET OUT OF THEIR WAY, BUT HE CHOSE TO DISREGARD MY REQUEST. AS A RESULT, IN THIS INCIDENT, THE WINGS OF B-767 JET BEING PUSHED BACK COMPLETELY WENT OVER MY CESSNA 402 ACFT AND GND CREW OF THE JET BEING EXTREMELY CLOSE TO MY ACFT'S RUNNING PROP. AT FLL COMMUTER RAMP IS LOCATED AT THE END OF CONCOURSE IN TERMINAL. IN ORDER TO REACH THERE, COMMUTER ACFT TAXI PASS BY ACR ACFT PARKED IN CONCOURSES. ACR PARKING HAS A RED CONTAINMENT LINE, WHICH CANNOT BE CROSSED BY COMMUTER ACFT AT ANY TIME. HOWEVER, PUSHBACK CALLS ARE NOT MANDATORY AT FLL, OFTEN COMMUTER ACFT FIND THEMSELVES TRAPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF ACR'S PUSHBACK, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE 'TAXI TO' CLRNC FROM THE GND CTL. (PORTIONS OF CONCOURSE IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE CTL TWR.) THEY ARE FORCED TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION AROUND THE ACR ACFT AND THEIR GND EQUIP AND GND CREW. THIS IS AN ONGOING PROB DUE TO POOR CONSTRUCTION DESIGN FROM 1985 CONSTRUCTION OF TERMINAL. I AM WELL FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROB, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN A COMMUTER CAPT AT FLL IN THE PAST 13 YRS. THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED TO THE FAA (FSDO-17) BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE A SOLUTION TO THIS PROB YET. INSTEAD THE SIT BECAME WORSE IN THE PAST 2 YRS. ARPT HAS TAKEN A FEW HUNDRED FT FROM THE ORIGINAL COMMUTER RAMP AND ASSIGNED IT TO SOME CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO PARK THEIR TRAILERS DESPITE THE INCREASE OF COMMUTER ACFT TFC. MY RECOMMENDATIONS TO SOLVE THIS PROB AT LEAST TEMPORARILY ARE: 1) REMOVE THE CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS FROM THE COMMUTER RAMP AREA TO AN ALMOST VACANT AREA SO CALLED TRAILER CITY (REF TO FLL SIDA TRAINING TAPE). 2) ASSIGN ACRS WITH SMALLER ACFT SUCH AS DASH 7, DASH 8, DC-9, ETC, TO GATES. 3) PUSH BACK CALLS TO FLL GND CTL FOR ABOVE GATES SHOULD BE MANDATORY. 4) GND CREW OF ACR ACFT UNDER TOW, SHOULD COMMUNICATE WITH THE PLT OF COMMUTER ACFT IN THEIR VICINITY THROUGH HAND SIGNAL MARSHALLING, ETC, AND PUSHBACK IN A MANNER THAT THEY DO NOT BLOCK THE TXWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.