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Attributes | |
ACN | 264696 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bzm airport : hky |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9300 msl bound upper : 9300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl tracon : tpa |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gates Learjet Corp Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 264696 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 350 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Encountered a near miss with a lear jet. West were approximately 10 NM north of barretts mountain VOR. During our descent from 11000 to 9000 we encountered the fast mover at 1130 O'clock position low. The lear jet passed our 12 O'clock position while making a 60 degree plus bank evasive maneuver, and passed off our right wing. The aircraft missed us by approximately 300 to 500 ft horizontal. Our altitude was 9300 MSL. We asked ZTL (121.15) where did the traffic come from (we immediately asked ZTL where the traffic had come from). ZTL responded that our traffic was a lear jet level at 10500 ft MSL and 5 NM in our 5 O'clock position. We were given no TA from ZTL. The lear had been issued a squawk for VFR advisories prior to our encounter. The lear was also not given any TA's. The lear, which was performing a test flight off hky airport, was climbing so fast that ZTL's radar could not keep up with its rate of climb. High performance climbs VFR may be legal in the area around bzm VOR, but they are not very safe in the area just north of bzm VOR. All traffic inbound to clt will be between 9000 and 11000 ft. Slower climbs above 8500 ft could save a serious accident from happening.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: ENCOUNTERED A NEAR MISS WITH A LEAR JET. W WERE APPROX 10 NM N OF BARRETTS MOUNTAIN VOR. DURING OUR DSCNT FROM 11000 TO 9000 WE ENCOUNTERED THE FAST MOVER AT 1130 O'CLOCK POS LOW. THE LEAR JET PASSED OUR 12 O'CLOCK POS WHILE MAKING A 60 DEG PLUS BANK EVASIVE MANEUVER, AND PASSED OFF OUR R WING. THE ACFT MISSED US BY APPROX 300 TO 500 FT HORIZ. OUR ALT WAS 9300 MSL. WE ASKED ZTL (121.15) WHERE DID THE TFC COME FROM (WE IMMEDIATELY ASKED ZTL WHERE THE TFC HAD COME FROM). ZTL RESPONDED THAT OUR TFC WAS A LEAR JET LEVEL AT 10500 FT MSL AND 5 NM IN OUR 5 O'CLOCK POS. WE WERE GIVEN NO TA FROM ZTL. THE LEAR HAD BEEN ISSUED A SQUAWK FOR VFR ADVISORIES PRIOR TO OUR ENCOUNTER. THE LEAR WAS ALSO NOT GIVEN ANY TA'S. THE LEAR, WHICH WAS PERFORMING A TEST FLT OFF HKY ARPT, WAS CLBING SO FAST THAT ZTL'S RADAR COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH ITS RATE OF CLB. HIGH PERFORMANCE CLBS VFR MAY BE LEGAL IN THE AREA AROUND BZM VOR, BUT THEY ARE NOT VERY SAFE IN THE AREA JUST N OF BZM VOR. ALL TFC INBOUND TO CLT WILL BE BTWN 9000 AND 11000 FT. SLOWER CLBS ABOVE 8500 FT COULD SAVE A SERIOUS ACCIDENT FROM HAPPENING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.