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Attributes | |
ACN | 267970 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : yul |
State Reference | PQ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 117 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : yul |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 23000 |
ASRS Report | 267970 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
I felt we were rushed during preflight because the jetway was late in positioning to the aircraft. As I performed the interior check, the first officer received the clearance which I overheard. It was the standard canned clearance, 'dorval...departure, runway 24R center stored routing, squawk XXXX.' the first officer read back the entire clearance as required in canada. During taxi, I requested runway 28 as it would be a shorter taxi. After being cleared to runway 28, I read the departure for the dorval 5 runway 28 which said fly 284 degree heading, maintain 5000 ft. My first officer said 'no, we were cleared for the dorval 6, heading 315 degrees, maintain 3000 ft.' I turned the page to the dorval 6 and confirmed the heading and altitude. Upon contacting departure control, we were told to maintain 4000 ft. He noticed my turn to 315 degrees and asked what SID we were given. We said dorval 6. He told us to turn left to a southwest heading and said 'it is ok this time because of no traffic but in future don't accept the dorval 6 because it is for turboprops.' we thanked him and proceeded on. At no time was there any conflict in traffic or was safety compromised. When I returned to my base, I was told I had been written up for flying the wrong SID. The ultimate responsibility for this error was mine as captain of the flight. I should have noticed the error my first officer made in telling me we were cleared for the dorval 6 SID. But! -- This would not have occurred if the canadians would rename the turboprop SID with another name. Nowhere in the united states do I know of sids with the same name but different numbers. The label 'turboprop aircraft' is in smaller print underneath the title of the SID. Surely the canadians can understand, it is just as easy to label 1 of the 2, 'dornal 5' and mucky muck 6.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HDG TRACK POS DEV.
Narrative: I FELT WE WERE RUSHED DURING PREFLT BECAUSE THE JETWAY WAS LATE IN POSITIONING TO THE ACFT. AS I PERFORMED THE INTERIOR CHK, THE FO RECEIVED THE CLRNC WHICH I OVERHEARD. IT WAS THE STANDARD CANNED CLRNC, 'DORVAL...DEP, RWY 24R CTR STORED ROUTING, SQUAWK XXXX.' THE FO READ BACK THE ENTIRE CLRNC AS REQUIRED IN CANADA. DURING TAXI, I REQUESTED RWY 28 AS IT WOULD BE A SHORTER TAXI. AFTER BEING CLRED TO RWY 28, I READ THE DEP FOR THE DORVAL 5 RWY 28 WHICH SAID FLY 284 DEG HDG, MAINTAIN 5000 FT. MY FO SAID 'NO, WE WERE CLRED FOR THE DORVAL 6, HDG 315 DEGS, MAINTAIN 3000 FT.' I TURNED THE PAGE TO THE DORVAL 6 AND CONFIRMED THE HDG AND ALT. UPON CONTACTING DEP CTL, WE WERE TOLD TO MAINTAIN 4000 FT. HE NOTICED MY TURN TO 315 DEGS AND ASKED WHAT SID WE WERE GIVEN. WE SAID DORVAL 6. HE TOLD US TO TURN L TO A SW HDG AND SAID 'IT IS OK THIS TIME BECAUSE OF NO TFC BUT IN FUTURE DON'T ACCEPT THE DORVAL 6 BECAUSE IT IS FOR TURBOPROPS.' WE THANKED HIM AND PROCEEDED ON. AT NO TIME WAS THERE ANY CONFLICT IN TFC OR WAS SAFETY COMPROMISED. WHEN I RETURNED TO MY BASE, I WAS TOLD I HAD BEEN WRITTEN UP FOR FLYING THE WRONG SID. THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS ERROR WAS MINE AS CAPT OF THE FLT. I SHOULD HAVE NOTICED THE ERROR MY FO MADE IN TELLING ME WE WERE CLRED FOR THE DORVAL 6 SID. BUT! -- THIS WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED IF THE CANADIANS WOULD RENAME THE TURBOPROP SID WITH ANOTHER NAME. NOWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES DO I KNOW OF SIDS WITH THE SAME NAME BUT DIFFERENT NUMBERS. THE LABEL 'TURBOPROP ACFT' IS IN SMALLER PRINT UNDERNEATH THE TITLE OF THE SID. SURELY THE CANADIANS CAN UNDERSTAND, IT IS JUST AS EASY TO LABEL 1 OF THE 2, 'DORNAL 5' AND MUCKY MUCK 6.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.